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Old 12-03-2003, 04:59 PM
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AMG motor 0n ebay

Great site!! could i put this (item # 2446030414)
in a e320?what mods if any would i need?

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Old 12-04-2003, 10:15 AM
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You'll have to beat me in the bidding I was just going to post about that very engine.

I have a couple choices for upping the power in my G320. The 3.6L M104 is one option, the other is a bolt on twin turbo kit from the UK that I ran across.

I think the AMG engine will be the less expensive route. It is a long block with the intake and exhaust manifolds. It includes the fuel rail and injectors, the brutally expensive throttle body is there as well. The engine is a 1996 model.

So, I wonder if it will mate with my 1995 3.2L electronics? As stripped as the engine is, I optomistically doubt that it would be a big deal to run it with the standard 3.2L electronics. Anybody know for sure? Would I be better off trying to pick up a '95 C36 ECM? There may be a couple OBD sensors that do not get used but who cares?

Does anybody know if the sensors (coolant temp, TB position, crank sensor?, etc) are different from 95-96? Naturally I was hoping for a plug and play situation.

Any insights????
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Old 12-04-2003, 02:30 PM
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Originally posted by G-Man

Does anybody know if the sensors (coolant temp, TB position, crank sensor?, etc) are different from 95-96? Naturally I was hoping for a plug and play situation.

Any insights????


Pretty close but, run your EA. I'll tell ya the rest if you ship me the unimog.



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Old 12-04-2003, 03:24 PM
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$10,000 buys it Joe Of course if you can help me get the 3.6 to work in my truck, I'm willing to negotiate

I just bought my '94 280Ge from a guy in Cary. Its a little red bugger, did it ever come through your shop?
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Old 12-05-2003, 12:18 PM
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Nope, aint had a G wander in as of yet.


I wanna MOG. Why? Dunno, just seems like a good idea. If nothing else, no one in my neighborhood has one.



I participated in the install of a 95 3.6 104 into a 94 wagon not too long ago, pretty much plug and play, just make sure to swap flywheel, crank sensors and EA'a. The cross over pipe is super high dollar as well. The fix for that to swap the valve covers.




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Old 12-06-2003, 03:00 AM
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no MAF, No computers, no accessories.... Too much money to get that stuff.
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Former Mercedes in the Stable:
1983 300CD Turbo diesel 515k mi sold (rumor has it, that it has 750k miles on it now)
1984 300CD Turbo Diesel 150 k mi sold
1982 300D Turbo Diesel 225 sold
1987 300D Turbo Diesel 255k mi sold
1988 300 CE AMG Hammer 15k mi sold
1986 "300E" Amg Hammer 88k mi sold (it was really a 200, not even an E (124.020)
1992 500E 156k mi sold
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Old 12-07-2003, 04:25 AM
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Tried to run my stock 3,2l with the AMG(VDO) ECU. Looks absolutly the same except there is one additional plug in the connector. the 3.2l would start and stumble but not really run. fortunately my ECU was not the problem it was the OVP. Still this is a great engine for that price. i am in Austria- too much hassle to get it here.
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Old 12-07-2003, 05:08 AM
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Originally posted by joe p
The cross over pipe is super high dollar as well.
That is nearly $600
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Former Mercedes in the Stable:
1983 300CD Turbo diesel 515k mi sold (rumor has it, that it has 750k miles on it now)
1984 300CD Turbo Diesel 150 k mi sold
1982 300D Turbo Diesel 225 sold
1987 300D Turbo Diesel 255k mi sold
1988 300 CE AMG Hammer 15k mi sold
1986 "300E" Amg Hammer 88k mi sold (it was really a 200, not even an E (124.020)
1992 500E 156k mi sold
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Old 12-07-2003, 11:32 AM
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That is nearly $600
No ****. To be honest I really doubt there is that much difference in power between the 2 anyway. The wagon that BTS built was fast as all hell with the stock ecu and the stock (to the wagon) x-over pipe. I think the major gains are in the add'l cubes, cam and exhaust work.


You shoulda seen the look on the ricers face when the thing hits the NOS and literally blew past him about 60 out from the launch. Damn I wish I had that on film. There is nothing like a 100 shot to wake one up.



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Old 12-15-2003, 02:06 PM
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Joe P: I may be going to Raleigh soon. I'd love to come up and meet with you and see the NOS install on the 3.6 M104 AMG.

I have the 1988 wagon that I did a 3.6 M104 power train install.

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Old 12-26-2003, 11:24 AM
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OK, the engine is back but still didn't get an answer to my original question : what mods would I need for E320?please let me know
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Old 12-26-2003, 01:55 PM
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That seller said that he had a local buyer, maybe the deal fell through. You would need the computers, MAS, Accessories, etc.
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Former Mercedes in the Stable:
1983 300CD Turbo diesel 515k mi sold (rumor has it, that it has 750k miles on it now)
1984 300CD Turbo Diesel 150 k mi sold
1982 300D Turbo Diesel 225 sold
1987 300D Turbo Diesel 255k mi sold
1988 300 CE AMG Hammer 15k mi sold
1986 "300E" Amg Hammer 88k mi sold (it was really a 200, not even an E (124.020)
1992 500E 156k mi sold
etc.
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Old 12-29-2003, 08:04 PM
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If you guys are interested i have a 95 C36 with monir front damage. The cars runs perfect. I will take $6400 for it. Engine, transmission, computers, interior, wheels etc etc all in great condition.. Drop me a line if you're interested. I have a thread with a couple of pictures. Just do a search for my threads.
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Old 12-29-2003, 08:05 PM
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oops sorry posted the wrong picture. Here is the C36.
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Old 12-29-2003, 08:07 PM
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In case you're wondering the car needs. Hood, right fender, front bumper, core support and some labor.

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