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Old 11-17-2012, 04:27 PM
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OM617 Oil Pan Center Sleeve Tool

Does anyone have an oil pan centering sleeve (part no. 617589001400)?

I found one online here for $68.80 but I don't know anything about the online store as far as reliability. The price is OK and I'd buy it and make it available to other members if nobody has one already.

Mercedes Benz OIL PAN CENT - 617589001400

The tool slides on the crank shaft and helps maintain alignment of the piece circled in green during installation.

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Old 11-18-2012, 12:08 PM
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I decided to order the tool and make it available to others after I use it.

I'll post pics of it in use once I get it.
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Old 11-27-2012, 01:53 PM
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The tool arrived today. It ended up costing $107 shipped. The list price on their website was wrong, but I still decided to go ahead with the order since I needed it.

Shipping was fast and it's a genuine MB tool.

Once I finish up a few other projects on the wagon, I'll get some pics of the tool in use.
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Old 11-27-2012, 01:58 PM
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Nice one - it isn't needed on a non turbo OM617 - but still interested to see it.

Do you think (with dimensions) it could be made on a lathe with a bit of Delrin?
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Old 11-27-2012, 02:02 PM
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Nice one - it isn't needed on a non turbo OM617 - but still interested to see it.

Do you think (with dimensions) it could be made on a lathe with a bit of Delrin?
Absolutely. I'll post pics of the tool with I.D and O.D. dimensions.

You could probably align the piece by hand, but I was thinking once the sealant is in there it would be tough to keep it from sliding around since the holes are larger than the bolts to allow for some adjustment.

My piece was off several mm to the right and I didn't want to risk having to do the front seal again if I didn't get the alignment correct.

This tool stays in place until the sealant is cured and then gets removed.


EDIT: What's different on the NA OM617? Does it have a different type of front seal?
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Old 11-27-2012, 02:09 PM
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EDIT: What's different on the NA OM617? Does it have a different type of front seal?
I looked in the manual and it looks like the block forms the top half of the bore for the radial seal on NA OM617's.

EDIT: The tool may still be needed if you are reinstalling the upper oil pan to the block.
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Old 11-27-2012, 02:47 PM
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Thanks for the offer of data and the pictures. When I refitted my upper oil pan (on a non turbo OM617) found it quite easy to align it but then it didn't have this extra cover bit you've got...

...actually I've just had a penny dropping moment - now I can see why not so many people have trouble removing the spacer that sits behind the front seal (crankshaft).


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Now of course you've got to fit the crankshaft seal and the balancer etc...

...have you by any chance got the fly wheel lock?
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Old 11-27-2012, 02:53 PM
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Now of course you've got to fit the crankshaft seal and the balancer etc...

...have you by any chance got the fly wheel lock?
Would this be needed while torquing the crank bolt back on? I was planning to put a large pry bar in the notch of the balancer and hold it against the block.
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Old 11-27-2012, 04:53 PM
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Thanks for the offer of data and the pictures.
Here's the data and pics.





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Chad, the on line store you bought the tool from, is the Mercedes dealership Stahl Motors of Monterey Bay, Ca. about 40 miles south of me.

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Old 11-28-2012, 02:52 AM
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Wow Chad brilliant set of pictures and a great diagram.

(I'm saving that one!)

As for the fly wheel lock I reckon you are better off trying ye olde thingy stuck in the starter hole rather than wedging something at the front of the engine to torque up the 27mm hex head bolt that goes into the crank (phew try saying that in one go! Why don't I ever use commas?)...

I've been trying to come up with a suitable DIY alternative to the fly wheel lock special tool here =>

Has anyone ever made a good DIY tool to lock an OM617 flywheel?

If you come up with something - I for one would like to know about it!


Here's some information that might help with the next stage =>

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The specification in chapter 03-340 is 270 - 330 Nm

The fly wheel lock special tool is 110 589 00 40 00



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It isn't a one time use bolt as far as I can make out.
From this thread

Research - Why so many OM61X balancer failures?
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Old 12-05-2012, 05:18 PM
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The anaerobic sealant and activator arrived today so I was able to get the upper oil pan bracket installed.

Here's the alignment sleeve tool in use.


Once everything was torqued down, I tapped the side of the sleeve tool with a plastic tip hammer as I pulled it off.
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:12 AM
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Oh nice neat and tidy. Do you do sealing in bathrooms too?
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:43 PM
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Here's an idea... can the crank housing cover be removed with the front crank seal in place, then new sealant put on the sealing surfaces of the cover, bolt it back in place (the crank seal acts as the centering tool), then after the sealant cures, pull and replace the seal if necessary? Isn't the Mercedes sealant the same thing as black RTV?
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I have everything you. Need to do this whole job . Pm me done over 400 of them in my days easy
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