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body_infinity 12-22-2007 09:49 PM

W114 Fuel gauge always showing past full??
 
Hi guys, I know it is common for the sender to be the main issue with the fuel gauge not showing the right amount of fuel but in this case I am confused? I have read the other posts inc the DIY and tried it all (earth, clean sender etc) but no luck.

The strange thing is that when I unplug the three point connector in the trunk the gauge does not respond still showing well past full, when I turn off the car it falls back down.

My question is shouldn't the gauge fall if I unplug the sender (in the trunk??) what is providing it with power to move all the way past full?? I unplug the connector and no change in the gauge :confused: any help or tips re what to look for or try next?? Note the other gauges work fine its just the fuel gauge thats driving me crazy:( (ps found out the hard way it was not full ..

body_infinity 12-23-2007 04:57 AM

...forgot to mention low fuel warning lamp does light up
 
Guys not sure if important but the orange low fuel warning lamp does work after I cleaned the sender it now lights up its just that the fuel gauge shows its full (well its well over past the full tick) can I assume the gauge is faulty????

Thanks BI

meltedpanda 12-23-2007 08:36 PM

sounds like you might have a ground issue, and or faulty gauge and or sender (sorry):o You have to rule out each one
Let start with the unit in the tank.
I take it from your post you have had the gauge out of the tank. Did you test it with an Ohm meter?
when you slide the pod you should get a change in resistance. when bottomed out you should get continuity, off the bottom - open

vox_incognita 12-24-2007 06:57 AM

Take it out and inspect...as Meltedpanda suggested,check the resistance values,which should be:
4,7 ± 0,4 Ohm full
65,7 ±1,4 Ohm tank empty.
I`m pretty sure yours is the same on w110 fintail models(as well as many others),MB Number A1105421204=VDO 224-817-001-014R
http://www.epsparts.com/product/1105421204/MERCEDES_PARTS_GENUINE_FUEL_TANK_FLOAT_MOST_1963__1975.html
http://www.kienzle.de/uploads/media/sensoren_instrumentierung.pdf
130-140$$.I had no luck at junkyards,all 3 were shot...

meltedpanda 12-24-2007 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vox_incognita (Post 1713707)
130-140$$.I had no luck at junkyards,all 3 were shot...

I actually rebuilt a few , need NiChrome wire and a steady hand, but it can be done

body_infinity 12-25-2007 08:00 AM

update...
 
guys thanks for the input made the ohm check and it pointed to the gauge, the sender was good, will pop a new one in, thanks again for the ohm numbers :-)

Tomguy 12-25-2007 11:28 AM

You sure it's the gauge and not a short in the wires making it think the tank is full?

Remember, it's supposed to be 0.4 ohms full, and you're showing >full which would sound like 0 ohms of resistance... which is a short.

body_infinity 12-26-2007 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomguy (Post 1714551)
You sure it's the gauge and not a short in the wires making it think the tank is full?

Remember, it's supposed to be 0.4 ohms full, and you're showing >full which would sound like 0 ohms of resistance... which is a short.

Hi tomguy did another check and your right not sure how I got the diff readings, ....ok so decided to check for a short, after tracing the wires thru from the sender I think I found it at a junction point at the front of the car under the glove box, touched the wires and the gauge worked, I think it might be corrosion?? will pull out and clean up..thanks heaps tomguy ;)


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