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Old 12-28-2007, 10:49 PM
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Washer pump w108

I've been advised by mechanic that the pump system on the w108 is worthless and I should install an electric pump. I think I'll buy a universal pump from the auto parts store and hook it up.

I think that I'm going to hook it up the the switch on the foot pedal. My question is the wiring. I assume that when the switch is activated it completes the circuit and causes the wipers to activate. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I should wire it?

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Old 12-29-2007, 12:45 AM
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Whats wrong with the manual foot pump and bladder combo hanging from the battery tray? Poke out the nozzle jets if they're blocked, but the original washer is hard to beat.
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Old 12-29-2007, 12:50 AM
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Whats wrong with the manual foot pump and bladder combo hanging from the battery tray? Poke out the nozzle jets if they're blocked, but the original washer is hard to beat.
I've heard from more than a few people that even when working properly, the stream is "whimpy".
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Not so - it works well - you just need to make sure that that hoses and jets are clear and you'll get a good stream.
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Old 12-29-2007, 08:57 PM
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ok, so I make sure the hoses and jets are clear. Are there any check valves I have to worry about? What actually does the pumping? Is it vacuum or the bubble on the foot switch?
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Old 12-29-2007, 11:01 PM
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The bellows works as siphon pump manually forcing wash fluid through the jets. You can blow em out clean with pressurized air. Please dont discard it, thats stone stock mechanical device that rarely fails and one of the coolest primitive features of old world MB's. Replacement bladder reservoirs have now become scarce, but its worth restoring if you can do it.
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Old 12-29-2007, 11:14 PM
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What I have found is that the bladder fills with deposits over the years. I suppose that this stuff is whatever they put into ww fluid, and/or whatever is in the water they use.
I have "emptied" a few of them, and all had "stuff" in them. Some just powder (almost like talcum powder), other more chunky stuff, along with powder. In one case, I would guess that the capacity was reduced by 25-40%. I also discovered that often this crud, would block discharge.

Grab your 8mm, remove the bladder (after disconnecting the reservoir) and hold it upside down to remove what stuff might be in there. Unless your bladder is new, I will guarantee that there is crud in there.

I like this type of system, because I can aim it, with varying pressure, to the elevation where I think it will do the most good.

hope this helps...
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we had very hard water when I lived in the bay area and I discovered that adding white vinegar to any car's washer fluid would help clear the system of mineral deposits and make things work better. This was especially helpful with my first MB - the end of deposits.

I'm kinda fond of the foot pump too

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Some of the 'crud' may also be crumbling rubber!
For a long time, I had no complaint with the performance of the rubber-bulb footpump in my '72 250, but after so many years the rubber can deteriorate. If the bulb doesn't crack and leak first, the insides may start to crumble, spreading tiny rubber particles through the washer system to repeatedly clog the valve and nozzles.
I wound up wiring a small Delco electric washer pump, from an '80s Chevy Cavalier, to the circuit at the pedal switch that normally cycles the wipers when the bulb is depressed.
I did have to disconnect the wire for the wiper cycle feature, as I didn't add a diode or relay circuit to prevent feedback into the pump when the wipers were switched on, but that was a minor issue compared to gaining a reliable washer system.

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