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Ferrari uses F1 as a develope all their street cars. Or how AMG and M use a alot of DTM racing to develope their cars, like the CLK.
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The SLR certainly pushed the limits when it came out, and AMG continues to break them with there amazing engines.
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Hydraulic suspension (the French had it for ages but that was it) Dry Sump - Racing application ABS - I think it was the first car with it Fuel injection We need to remember that compared to every day cars, any MB was out of the ordinary and some features did not get adopted by other companies for years. At college I drove a 1971 250CE for a few years. It has hard for my Ford and Vauxhall driving friends who had newish cars with no power steering, disk brakes all round, EFI and electric gizmos to accept that my 27 year old car did. The cool thing about the 6.9 is that a lot of this stuff still works well even by today's standard. People tend to complain about the suspension but the reality is that those hydraulic shocks and spheres take ages to go bad and many of the 6.9's that are out there today still have the original suspension.
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Meanwhile automobile design has gone nowhere except downhill these past 30 yrs. More pure thought and better craftsmanship went into *any* pre-73 design such as VMB 114/115/116's than anything built since. Instaed we're now stuck with beacoup sloppy engineering weirdness driven by crazy consumer tastes - wherein yer typical new car buyer outright demands flash and glitter over substance. MB 6.9 w116 represents last ghasp of old world greatness no holds barred. Reconnoitre Alabbasi with his collection drives from Dallas to anywhere at 120+ mph steering with his toes. (edit: Hatty, from yer sig it says you're in CT. For kick in the ass check out Lime Rock Race Track - they used to offer use of the track to general public, even settin ye up with one of their track cars. It was $50 per hour back in late '70s when i was at school nearby and worth every penny. Last edited by 300SDog; 03-19-2008 at 09:53 PM. |
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You really don't like the new stuff do you? Have you seen the technoligy that goes into something like an SLR? Its amazing they use materials and process's that didn't exist in the 70's, well unless you worked for NASA. Even something pretty commen like an S600 has amazing technoligy that they could only dream about in the 70's. Its no different than the Gullwing was, well except the Gullwing was bolted together from whatever MB had sitting around because they were broke. But it took a long time for the technoligy to trickle down to cheap cars.
You like British cars? A Lotus Elise is an amazing piece! Its pretty much epoxy bonded aluminum and one of the best handling cars ever made by anyone. Those Lotus are fun old cars, building one as a good kit costs quite a bit today, like damn near $50k. Super Performance sells the 7 kits. Again its not about speed, comparing different cars and saying one is better than the other because its faster is dumb. So what if the 7 is faster than some F cars? A lot of cars are. I don't care I rather own the Ferrari because they are amazing. So what if a rat trap 5.0 Mustang can take it in a race? And? I'd get more enjoyment out of a finaly crafted car that was built to perfection, like a fine watch, wine or gun.
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Everything else in yer reply just supports what I been sayin about modern tastes infatuated with gloss and glitter as opposed to substance. Like why should anybody care what kinda paint goes onto the Lotus Elise. Doncha get it, doncha see?? There have been very, very few appreciable improvements in auto design aside from troublesome over-engineering these past 30 yrs. True beauty of classic pre-79 VMB's is whats NOT included with the car... fewer crazy relays, oddball vacuum devices, nutty electricktronics and weird unwanted features. Probly the bulk of which is reason you call yer 1987 300SDL the "money pit". |
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Gary, if the dollar wasnt so weak right now y'all could get rich sneakin classic UK roadsters and ragtops like TR4A's, Alpines, Healey 3 litres and coupes like the TR-GT6, Stag V-8 and MG CGT into the USA. Nevermind Bristols, Aces and Cobras. What UK's done with sports cars = what MB's done with sedans, each the best of their kind. That Ariel Atom looks like hell on wheels.
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Yep, British Cars are a hoot to drive. It's a shame they weren't so well built. Sadly, it will almost always be more profitable to ship a British car from the US to the UK then otherwise. These cars rust like you wont believe in northern Europe.
The California climate is really good to them. Now if only we could have a German Moss motors or Victoria German which makes new chrome and trim bits for our older Mercedes, I would be a happy guy.
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The Gullwing's engine, gear box, and suspension came out of a sedan, forget the model. MB was broke when they built that car, WW2 wasn't just a memory and they were probably still rebuilding their factories. It was revolutionary because it was the first real super car, and the chassie was extremely advanced and had those high beams running along the side. The doors were just a simple logical solution, that became an icon. I wasn't talking about the paint on a Lotus, that statement alone tells me you really don't know much about the new stuff, no offense. Look into it a bit you might surprise your stuff with all the clever things they are doing. Like extruded aluminum parts that are bonded together with advanced expoxy to make a very light and stiff body. Or complete carbon fiber, or carbon carbon parts and bodies, super light. Materials that only NASA could play with a few years ago. Or magnesium engine blocks to reduce weight and improve handling.
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Magnesium alloy blocks have been found in the most diminutive of cars from 1938 to the 50's: The Beetle. It's nothing new per se, and I'm sure that if Volkswagen had it, then Mercedes could've used it as well on the m100 if it had made sense to at the time.
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