found V8 with manual transmission
 

Found a 1974 350 W116 with a manual transmission that is being parted out. The car appears to a European model. The shifter assembly is gone but motor and tranny is still in the car. Since it has the 3 shift levels on the side I assume it not a ZF but rather a G76/27. It has a mounting provision for a starter on both sides.

1. Would the transmission fit on a later 560 engine?
2. Would the flywheel fit on a 560 crankshaft?
3. Not likely :-) but how could I tell if it a 5 speed just by looking at the transmission (does anyone have a picture of a G76/27-5)
4. Is the ZF better than the Mercedes manual?
5. What is the going rate for a 4 speed V8 tranny.

For more information see http://picasaweb.google.com/vintagemotion/MercedesV8Manual#

the 3.5 engine could be optioned with a 4 speed manual transmission. Mercedes never officially made a v8 with a 5 speed.
I don't think the bolt pattern for the transmission would fit the later engines.

There are automatics that fit both 116s and 117s - why not the stick? The factory never did 117 stick but that may be simply because of the limited market. I can't imagine that there is a "going rate" for such a thing - just too narrow a market.

Probably because they didn't think that gearbox would hold up to the additional strain from the 4.5 liter engine.

Hello,

I took a four speed manual from a 3.5 Mercedes V-8 and installed it in my 1974 450SLC. Works just great!

And what about all the W`107's that were delivered with manual trans? .
An alloy block V8 has a smaller pitch circle on the bell housing so the 3.5 ,350 and 450 SL and various W116 V8 manual trans bell housings won't fit. A 560 has it's ignition sensors on the flex plate so unless you are a really good machinist theses no chance of adapting a specially made flywheel easily.

To amplify that, the cast iron v8s (M116 & M117) have the same back plate setup for the transmissions, so the 3-speed and 4-speed automatics along with the 4-speed manual will interchange freely (note that the 4-speed manual is shorter, so the drive shaft is longer, also the support plate for the transmission is different).

Likewise, the light alloy V8s (M116 & M117 again) have the same (lack of) backplate setup and again, their transmissions will interchange. Your best bet for a manual for one of these is the BMW transmission we're told.

Though good luck finding somebody that has already done the swap to get pictures and dimensions.

-CTH

Are you willing to part with that transmission?

here are some pictures of the transmission and parts For more information see http://picasaweb.google.com/vintagemotion/MercedesV8Manual#

To echo earlier comment, get the driveshaft too. They are different and I don't think MB carries the manual versions anymore. Price for such a transmission is in the eye of the beholder. I got one about two years ago for $250 including shipping.

Bert

manual v8 tranny from 1974 3.5
 

Until what exact year does this tranny fit the V8's?
When is the cut off between alloy and cast iron?


Thanks

The 3.5 & 4.5 were cast iron. The 3.8, 4.2, 5.0 & 5.6 are light alloy. 1980 was the transition year most of the old models ended and new ones came to be. -CTH

Is the bellhousing a seperate piece? A Mustang T5 would be a good choice.

Is the Clutch Pedal still available?

Here are pictures of all the parts I have [url]http://picasaweb.google.com/vintagemotion/MercedesV8Manual#