can't find 3rd and 4th

[eclipse_22]

I made my own polyurethane bushing, it snaps onto the little ball from the shifter arms. Is there a way to adjust it so I can move the lever freely to find 3rd and 4th. Because i took the whole arm off from the top of the transmission, and then put it back on and now i can't find the gears. Perhaps someone can get me some picture of how the arms are positioned in 3rd and 4th? Thanks

BTW its a 1962 190c 4spd

[Todd Miller]

Is the arm on top of the trans fitted to a splined shaft? If so, you've got it clocked wrong.

[eclipse_22]

yea its on the top, and by clocked you mean..........? what do i do to fix this issue

[ejboyd5]

It means that the splines are not in their original position thereby preventing you from accessing 3rd and 4th gears. Try rotating the adapter by one or two splines to cure the problem. Alignment by rotataion = "clocked."

[sjefke]

If you have access to the MB workshop manual, I think it will have a picture/drawing with the basic position of those levers (at least mine has). But even then, you may just have to move them one spline at a time to find the original (best) position.

Always use a scratcher or centerpunch to mark original positions when taking these things apart.

Good luck,

Bert

[eclipse_22]

So I found a pic of what i was workin on. You people are sure on your answers?
I replaced the ball socket where it is circled red, with my own polyurethane one. And the thing circled in red, i took that big rubber thing out and, was it ever so hard to put back in!!!.

[mercmad6.3]

Is it column shift?. Check the bottom of the column and the gear lever for excess movement. It has to be perfect otherwise you will never get it to shift properly.

[eclipse_22]

Yes its 4 on the tree, what should i look at to ensure everything is good!?

[mercmad6.3]

Starting from the ball socket on the lever itself,there must not be any free play. The end of the lever where it fits into the rod in the column is also another loose point which should be fixed. On the bottom of the column is a bush .This wears and must be sorted and you have done the ball end. What you should be trying to achieve is a smooth movement which transfers all the movement and doesn't lose anything in the linkage.

[Mark DiSilvestro]

If that 'whole arm' you removed from the top of your transmission fits onto a splined shaft, chances are you reinstalled it one or more splines off. If so, you'll need to remove and try reinstalling that arm in different positions until you can find all your gear ranges again.

Happy Motoring, Mark

[eclipse_22]

problem still persists....... one more question. What way should I try clocking it first because I don't want to start going clockwise when I should be going counter clockwise. My friend also said it might be the shift forks inside the transmission itself. It will occasionally find 3rd and 4th when you get a steady grip and guide it smoothly through.

[t walgamuth]

The shift rod itself may have been adjusted so that it worked with a sloppy bushing. You might have to adjust that drastically from where it was with the old bushing.

[Mark DiSilvestro]

As best as I can tell from the picture in my factory manual, try moving the lever one spline clockwise.
(clockwise as veiwed by looking DOWN on the transmission)
Make the lever on the vertical tranny shift-shaft come a bit forward, towards the front of the car.

Happy Motoring, Mark

[bwostosh]

I had a 220Sb 1960 and replaced ALL the bushings column and trans. It finally was perfect after subframe, front and rear motor mounts were renewed to get proper body-to-transmission positioning. All rods have adjustments. It was a real pleasure to shift smooth.