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Old 08-23-2009, 10:22 PM
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M130 valve adjustment

I am in the process of replacing the valve stem seals (finished) and adjusting the valves. My question is, are the adjusting studs supposed to be so tight you can't turn them with a cheater bar on a 17mm wrench? Is there some better way to turn the studs? SIR tools shows an "s" extension but no 17mm crows foot socket. Any suggestions are welcome. The car is a 1971 280SE four door sedan.
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1985 300TDT (76,904 Original miles ) "Sadie" (Sold-went back to Arkansas)
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Old 08-23-2009, 10:29 PM
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They can get really stuck. I remove the rocker and use a deep socket and a breaker bar to work the adjuster loose or remove the whole adjuster to a vise where heat can be applied to loosen it.
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Old 08-23-2009, 10:41 PM
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Thanks for the info, after I posted I looked at Fastlane's tool section and found a "s" extension and 17mm crows foot socket. I'll order those tomorrow as I need them to get around the fuel lines anyway.
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1985 300TDT (76,904 Original miles ) "Sadie" (Sold-went back to Arkansas)
1984 300DT "Green-go" (Sold)
1984 300DT "Silver Bullet" (Sold)
1956 220S Ponton
1985 300D (Sold)
1984 300D
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Old 08-24-2009, 07:59 PM
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In the fifties and sixties the interference fit on the valve adjusters would move pretty easy. So in service they did move and you burnt exhaust valves if you did not keep on top of valve adjustments.

Mercedes cure was to increase the interference fit. The last few gas engines of the mechanical lifter type i found myself popping rocker arms and using a socket and power bar on a lot of the adjusters.
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Old 08-25-2009, 10:45 AM
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Check with these folks for the proper wrench:

http://www.samstagsales.com/

The ball pins are very tight to ensure they keep the adjustment secure. You need an offset wrench that places the torque squarely over the center line of the ball pin while adjusting the clearance. A crow's foot can be made to work but you risk rounding off the ball pin head or splitting the wrench. Usually the only way a crow's foot will work is if the ball pins are too loose and should be replaced. Samstag has the proper Hazet-style wrenches for this job.

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Old 08-25-2009, 01:50 PM
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If I remember the correct wrench is far thicker as well than a normal crowsfoot to reduce the rounding off tendency.
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Old 08-26-2009, 09:54 AM
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Thanks to all for your help, I have ordered the correct tool for Phil.
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1985 300TDT (76,904 Original miles ) "Sadie" (Sold-went back to Arkansas)
1984 300DT "Green-go" (Sold)
1984 300DT "Silver Bullet" (Sold)
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1984 300D
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