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Old 11-25-2011, 04:23 AM
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MB 280SE 4.5 1972 rebuildt engine?

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I am considering buying a rebuildt & tested engine for my 1972 280SE 4.5, possibly together with transmision.
Need help to find a good supplier and an indication on cost.

And if you can direct me to a European supplier, even better, since I'm in Norway.
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Old 11-25-2011, 01:14 PM
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While not in Europe, Metric Motors is a well-regarded rebuilder of Mercedes engines in the U.S.

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Old 11-26-2011, 01:03 AM
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If I'm not mistaken, 4,5 was 'USA Only'. Euro models came with the 3,5 which is a higher output engine anyways. It'll be a tough deal to find 4,5 stuff in Europa, I think.
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Old 11-26-2011, 03:38 AM
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You can find euro 4.5 engines on the W116 450 models.

Honestly, I would go for a 5.6: same engine, bigger displacement and lighter because it has an alloy block instead of iron block. It will also be easier to source. You will need to get the transmission with it.
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Old 11-26-2011, 11:15 PM
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You can find euro 4.5 engines on the W116 450 models.

Honestly, I would go for a 5.6: same engine, bigger displacement and lighter because it has an alloy block instead of iron block. It will also be easier to source. You will need to get the transmission with it.
I believe that those were 350SE and SELs also. 560 was a U.S. only also- a de-tuned 500, as the 4,5 was a de-tuned 3,5.
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1969 VW Variant Automatic, Perugruen
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Old 11-27-2011, 08:01 AM
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500 was before the 560. 560 was a Europe engine as well, but it had more power than the US one.

I think we should be asking why you need a rebuilt 4.5? The bottom ends are really bulletproof. Usually the top ends are the issue and it's valve stems and seals which aren't too costly and are the same parts on the 3.5 and 4.5 engines. You could even put 3.5 heads on your 4.5 - just stick to the highest pump octane if you do.
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500 was before the 560. 560 was a Europe engine as well, but it had more power than the US one.

I think we should be asking why you need a rebuilt 4.5? The bottom ends are really bulletproof. Usually the top ends are the issue and it's valve stems and seals which aren't too costly and are the same parts on the 3.5 and 4.5 engines. You could even put 3.5 heads on your 4.5 - just stick to the highest pump octane if you do.
Well, there you go. My understanding was that MB came out with the 5.6 to stop the grey market of 5.0 cars.

I'm curious about why this should need an engine also. I agree that the 4.5 is pretty darn bulletproof.
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1963 VW 1500 Variant Pearlweiss
1969 VW Variant Automatic, Perugruen
1971 VW Squareback Automatic, Clementine Orange
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