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Old 02-08-2002, 10:56 AM
Jim B+
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Scrap Legislation Alert!

There appears to be a bill in Congress to create local bureaucracies and fund with grants to get all cars over 15 years old off the road.

The article at the end of this link gives the details, as well as reasons why it ain't such a good idea.

You have been warned!
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Old 02-08-2002, 12:28 PM
Mark V.II
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Sounds like a great idea!
Send 'em all up here to Canada, especially the ones with less rust. I'll even offer to act as a broker.

Only kidding folks.
I'd heard in California owners of some of the older cars get offers to take their cars off the road for $500 by some level of government. Some of those who have many thousands into their older cars tend to take this very personally.

Sounds like a pipe dream mean to kick start a slow automotive sector.
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Old 02-08-2002, 01:22 PM
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I wouldn't worry too much about it. This kind of stuff has been
kicked around for the last 20 years or so. Most of the country would be in an uproar about it so I don't take much stock about it.
The only place that would be dumb enough to try it is California,...
but they are a bunch of idiots anyway.
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Old 02-08-2002, 06:54 PM
Shaun McCarren
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Oh great!!! Sounds like the same people who decided to make HDTV law.
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Old 02-09-2002, 09:49 PM
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Come on Piper settle down, I'm a California transplant in Kansas, its just all things are posible in California.. good or bad. Not like the slower pace of change out here on the prairie. I just happen to to enjoy nostalgic living, sort of like being on the set of the Andy Griffith show, with a bit of Twin Peaks. Believe in the automotive culture, its strong in California, they won't let us down.
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Old 02-11-2002, 09:54 AM
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Okay okay, I was hasty when I wrote that. I'm originally from the West, one of the surrounding states of California.
Yes, the legislation has been tried in California before. Actually several times and it has been voted down each time.
California is not the only state it has been tried in either. Hopefully all auto enthusiastic people will always band together when "idiots" try that type of legislation.
I also have to admit that I'm not overly partial to Kansas either,
especially with the current budget situation.
Flatlanders are a strange bunch and the mountains will always call to me.
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Old 01-17-2003, 01:44 AM
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Cool They wanted to give me 500.00 for my '72 gas guzzling 4.5

I am a California native and I am always amused (and usually shocked) by what our tax dollars go towards. Shortly after I bought my '72 280 SE 4.5 dream machine, I received an offer of $500.00 to buy my old inefficient car. I had a good laugh about it, but then I realized they were offering me my own tax dollars back if I gave them my car. Robbing Peter . . . Anyways, they know what they can do w/ that $500.00. And, the double laugh on them is that my car is just old enough where I don't have to get it smogged every two years. So, it's a double joke on them, and I can't help singing this song from when I was a child, "They can't catch me, They can't catch me, They can't catch me this time!" Muhahahahahaha.

By the way, on a good tank, I get about 10 mpg, but that's all city driving. I've had it nudge 12 w/ mostly freeway driving. How can you NOT drive these things w/out being amazed by the power? I can feel acceleration going from 60 to 80. And 90 is not even pushing it. WEEEEEEEEE! Screw the mileage!
Thomas Viano
'72 280 SE 4.5, over 100,000 miles
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Old 01-17-2003, 02:11 AM
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Insurance companies have been doing the same thing for years. Had a buddy with a vintage MB hit in the right quarter panel a few years back. The insurance company totaled it and wanted to take the car for less then he considered it was worth with all his time and parts. He is still fighting them. Bottom line, have your vintage car appraised annually. At least you will have something to back you up on the amount your insurance company will want to give!
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Old 01-17-2003, 07:14 AM
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interesting, makes you wonder if the insurance companies are being offered that $500 to take your car off the road for you....
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Old 01-17-2003, 05:29 PM
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Hey! Every car I own is over 15 years old!
Is this part of the new Homeland Security Laws? Any day now, can I expect to be surrounded by a Federal Scrap-Squad task force?

Happy Motoring, Mark
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Old 01-18-2003, 01:31 AM
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Bottom line, have your vintage car appraised annually.
The British call this "agreed upon value". Says it all.

WEEEEEEEEE! Screw the mileage!
this one really cracked me up, right on!

One of the reasons you can buy low mileage Japanese engines is that they are imported FROM japan due to their mandatory retirement laws. I don't know if that kind of thing would actually fly here, but I am sure this is where the legislators are getting this idea.
1981 300CD (Benzina)
1968 250 S (Gina) 266,000 miles!
1983 Alfa Romeo GTV6 (Guido)
1976 Jaguar XJS-saved a V-12 from the chevy curse, what a great engine!
1988 Cadillac Eldorado (better car than you might think!)
1988 Yamaha Venture (better than a Wing!)
1977 Suzuki GS750B
1976 Yamaha XS 650 (sold)
1991 Suzuki GSX1100G (Shafty Gixser)
1981 Yamaha VX920RH (Euro "Virago")
Solex Moped
1975 Dodge P/U camper

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