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Is this driveshaft condition dangerous?
I have a 1968 220D automatic transmission with the following driveshaft problem:
A local MB-focused garage said I had a worn u-joint on the driveshaft and asked for $1000 to fix it. While not terribly familiar with these myself, I was able to feel play in the spline just in front of the u-joint, but not in the u-joint itself. So I believe my u-joint is fine, but the spline has developed some play (just the tiniest bit of movement). I don't have wrenches large enough for that bolt, but I was able to use a pipe wrench on the spline bolt and tighten it down. After tightening it down, I still feel a little play. So my question is: how unsafe is it to drive this car? I would normally drive this vehicle alone, but on occasion I may have my family in it. Your advice on how to proceed is appreciated. As an aside, the support bearing and rubber driveshaft couplers are in good condition. I don't know the mileage on the vehicle because the odometer died many years ago. Thanks. |
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Is it vibrating or squeaking?
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Driveline service of Portland
If you deceide you have a driveshaft problem you can have your driveshaft rebuilt at "Driveline service of Portland". They specilaize in Mercedes driveshafts. They will rebuild it better than new and use servicable u-joints of their own design. They will send you a shipping tube to ship your driveshaft. For mine with 3 u-joints and 2 center bearings they charged $550 so yours would be less. They may even have it in stock.
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More details of problem
It is neither vibrating nor squeeking. In fact, had the shop not claimed I had a bad u-joint, I would not have even known about this problem. But I should also say, my vehicle is not particularly quiet otherwise, so thing thing could be making noise at high speeds and I would never know it.
My best guess is that if it failed, it would simply slip, which doesn't scare me as much as a driveshaft flopping around under the car or possibly pole vaulting the car a few feet in the air. That would be an interesting sight, but a terrible experience. Thanks for the driveshaft shop recommendation. I am hoping to avoid major costs right now, but it is nice to know there is a quality solution out there. |
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While I dont have any facts of your situation, t it sounds to me like the shop just wants $1000 to empty your bank account. The spline always has a bit of slop, it has too. if it were tight it would lock up over time and transmit some noise into the car. The only way to check a uni joint is to drop the shaft and twist the joint with your fingers. Any tight spots indicate wear.
I have only ever seen the rubber flex discs fail and the worst was a 6.3 which ripped the rear of the trans out. Save your money,get a more honest shop and if you can afford it,replace the flex disc sometime as it is possibly the original . |
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Agreed. I'm thinking the shop is trolling for extra $$$. If your driveshaft had a problem, you'd know it. Get a second opinion. Oh, and lube it while you're at it.
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1968 230S Automatic, Elfenbein 1975 O309D Executive Westfalia Camper Bus, Blau/ Weiss 1972 280SEL 4,5 Dunkelrot 1966 VW Type 34 "Grosser" Karmann-Ghia 1963 VW 1500 Variant Pearlweiss 1969 VW Variant Automatic, Perugruen 1971 VW Squareback Automatic, Clementine Orange 2001 E320 4Matic Wagon- Our belated welcome to the 21st century! Polar White 1973 280SEL 4,5 Sliding Roof "The Bomb", Dunkelblau. |
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Lube it how?
I am showing my ignorance here, but what needs to be lubed on the driveshaft? My maintenance books suggest that the U-joint isn't serviceable, which I assume means it cannot be lubed. I worry sometimes about grease attracting/holding dirt which could increase wear potentially. I don't think my u-joint has any grease ports or anything like that.
Thanks for all your help. I will try to get it to a different shop sometime soon. I will post their advice as well, to let you know if there are any conclusions from this. |
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Look for grease fittings. If there aren't any anywhere, then don't worry about it.
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1968 230S Automatic, Elfenbein 1975 O309D Executive Westfalia Camper Bus, Blau/ Weiss 1972 280SEL 4,5 Dunkelrot 1966 VW Type 34 "Grosser" Karmann-Ghia 1963 VW 1500 Variant Pearlweiss 1969 VW Variant Automatic, Perugruen 1971 VW Squareback Automatic, Clementine Orange 2001 E320 4Matic Wagon- Our belated welcome to the 21st century! Polar White 1973 280SEL 4,5 Sliding Roof "The Bomb", Dunkelblau. |
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