Engine and Trans for a 220SEB

[movieprodw]

Hello,

I have a 1964 220SEB, the vehicle has everything except the engine and transmission.

Can you please tell me where I can get a engine and transmission, I have checked around the web but have found nothing yet.

I would really like to stick with the original engine, if I can not find one can you please let me know if there is any other engine and transmission that I can semi-easily put in it.

Thank you for sharing any knowledge.

Matt

[movieprodw]

EDIT:
It is a coupe FYI and I have some experience is rebuilding vintage cars, land rovers, but zero knowledge of working on Mercedes.

[JMela]

Mercedesengines.net might be a (not cheap) place to start.

[Pooka]

You have started in the right place.

Now, for a bit more info.....

Are you looking for a like new engine/transmission, a running engine/transmission or one that is all there but needs rebuilding?

Is everything else there, such as the radiator, generator/alternator, starter, A/C compressor?

Finding one in up and running condition is not impossible, but it would be easier to find one that needs rebuilding. Check out some of the Mercedes shops in your area and ask what a rebuild would cost. You might also tell them what you are looking for as they may have one sitting in a parts car behind the shop or they may know a customer that is willing to part with what you need.

I think the engine you are looking for is the M127 which was a 2.2 in 1964. It was later produced as a 2.5. One good thing is that this engine was in production until about 1973, so there are likely a few old sedans out there running around that might be worth your while to check out.

Any project like this is always made easier if you have a parts car to pull from. Finding another two-door is unlikely, but finding a sedan with mechanical fuel injection at a reasonable price is not impossible. I still see them in wrecking yards from time to time.

Be careful of your doors. They are made of aluminum and cost a fortune to repair if they are dented. You can verify this by placing a magnet on them and if it does not stick then you have aluminum. Be careful not to scratch the paint when doing this. The trunk lid and hood might also be aluminum, but the magnet test will tell you if this is so.

And if you wish to replace the interior the Italian company that made the original leather no longer produces vat dyed leather. Connolly of England does, though, so at least there is a source still out there.

Post a photo or two, and keep in touch.

[Marrs]

I didn't know the coupes had aluminum panels? Where did you find this info?

[Pooka]

It was just something I picked up long ago. It could be that not all of them are.

The steel doors were so heavy they were wearing out the hinges, so Mercedes was faced with making stronger hinges or lighter doors. They chose the lighter door route.

The magnet test will tell an owner if the doors or steel or not.

[bwostosh]

The door frame are cast aluminum the door skin is steel

[Pooka]

Matt....

Private Message sent. Check your private messages for some info on perhaps finding what you need cheap.

By the way....

Where are you located? Just the State and what part of it is specific enough.

[Marrs]

Originally Posted by bwostosh

The door frame are cast aluminum the door skin is steel

Ok this makes more sense and is in line with my own observations. Still partly correct Pooka, definitely helps with the weight, those internal castings are massive.

[movieprodw]

Hello Everyone!

Thanks for the great tips Pooka and the email.

Here is the link to the exact vehicle:
Beverly Hills Car Club :: 1964 Mercedes-Benz 220SEB Coupe -

I was hoping to get it in running order for under $15k but it seems like that may not be possible.

I love all of your info guys so please feel free to write about the car and other options out there, I really love this vehicle... not particularly this exact one but it seems to be very complete minus the motor/trans.

Matt

[movieprodw]

I am in Arizona by the way.

[Pooka]

Thanks for the info on the doors. There is so much to know about these cars it is easy to get jumbled up sometimes.

By the way.....

Here is some info that might help down the road. This is from the Glenn's repair manual from 1966.

[JMela]

Tristarparts is a mb-only wrecking yard in Tempe, I'd check in with them.

[Pooka]

There is a place called All Mercedes Wrecking Yard at 2350 West Broadway Road, Phoenix. From looking at a Google Earth shot of the place they might have what you need or know of another yard nearby that might.

Another good place to check out would be Car-Part.com--Used Auto Parts Market and that will give you a good notion of what prices are running. I could not find anything for a 220 but there seemed to be quite a few 2.5 for sale. One plus about buying from a source there is that they will test the engine and ship it to you. It might cost more, but it would save you the trouble of driving all over the Southwest trying to find one in a wrecking yard.

[pch2021]

I have a lead on a motor and gearbox from a rusty 220 coupe that is intact. I have no started it. It belongs to my friend Mike , who lives in Daytona Beach, Fl. My email is mbownersforlife@bellsouth.net if you're interested.
Good luck!