1970 280S Steel wheel width?

[Calspeed]

Anyone know the width of these wheels.

Thx!

Miguel

[Tomguy]

I may be wrong but I believe all 14" steels were 6.5" wide.

[Calspeed]

6.5 sounds pretty big. But if they are that world be great. Currently have 175 tires. Would like to go bigger.

[JMela]

There were a few different wheels offered, I think. Pull off a wheel cover and see which wheel you've got - there should be a part number stamped somewhere on the rim. post up the part number or a pic of the rim and we can go from there.

Some period mb wheel parts numbers and dimensions are listed at the bottom of this page:

http://www.sl113.org/wiki/WheelsTires/Rims

[GGR]

Some were 6". Their width is tamped in the center.

[JimFreeh]

Originally Posted by Tomguy

I may be wrong but I believe all 14" steels were 6.5" wide.

The 6.5 width was only on the V8 cars.

Pop a hubcap and look near the lug bolts, should have width and dia. stamped.

[ScooterABC]

Originally Posted by Calspeed

Anyone know the width of these wheels.

Thx!

Miguel

A 1970 280S will have a 14 x 6 wheel, it will be stamped on the wheel. It will most likely have a 108 part number also.

[Palolo]

My former stock set (71 280SE 2.8) are marked: 1084000702 6Jx14

Matches the info from this site: MBFelgen.de | Felgenliste | online kaufen

[ScooterABC]

Originally Posted by Tomguy

I may be wrong but I believe all 14" steels were 6.5" wide.

14" steel wheels came in 5.5", 6", and I think 6.5". Very early 113 cars had 5.5 x 14 and early 114/115 cars had 5.5 x 14, but it was a different wheel designed for the full wheel cover instead of dog dish hubcaps. The 6 x 14 were available in both the style that takes dog dish hubcaps and full wheel covers depending on the year of manufacture. Most 108 cars have 6 x 14, early 108s have wheels that take dog dish hubcaps and later 108s have wheels that probably take dog dish also, although they would be fitted with the full wheel cover starting in 1968 I believe... 123s had 5.5 x 14 and 6 x 14 depending on model and year. 114/115 and 123 also had 5.5 x 15 for special purpose non-US vehicles. I _think_ 15" Bundt alloy wheels were first introduced on late 108 sedans as a rare option.

The only wider wheel (6.5") I think would be on a later car such as a 107 or a 116 or 126 but not usually for the US market. <--- I'm pretty much making this part up, but I think I'm correct.

[JimFreeh]

[QUOTE=ScooterABC;3013749]14" steel wheels came in 5.5", 6", and I think 6.5". Very early 113 cars had 5.5 x 14 and early 114/115 cars had 5.5 x 14, but it was a different wheel designed for the full wheel cover instead of dog dish hubcaps. The 6 x 14 were available in both the style that takes dog dish hubcaps and full wheel covers depending on the year of manufacture. Most 108 cars have 6 x 14, early 108s have wheels that take dog dish hubcaps and later 108s have wheels that probably take dog dish also, although they would be fitted with the full wheel cover starting in 1968 I believe... QUOTE]

The only 14 wheels that used dog dish (small) hubcaps with trim rings (solid, not slotted) are found on the W113 cars and the W108/W109 cars up through 1967. In 1968, the familiar full wheelcover was standard.

You can tell the 67 and earlier wheel because they have three mounts at roughly the diameter on the hubcap that each have a spring loaded ball mounted on the outside to secure the small hubcap. Later covers can be subbed on the early wheels, but small hubcaps will not secure without all three mounts being present on the wheel.

Jim

[ScooterABC]

Originally Posted by JimFreeh

The only 14 wheels that used dog dish (small) hubcaps with trim rings (solid, not slotted) are found on the W113 cars and the W108/W109 cars up through 1967. In 1968, the familiar full wheelcover was standard.

You can tell the 67 and earlier wheel because they have three mounts at roughly the diameter on the hubcap that each have a spring loaded ball mounted on the outside to secure the small hubcap. Later covers can be subbed on the early wheels, but small hubcaps will not secure without all three mounts being present on the wheel.

The dogdish style wheels appeared on 1968 (and possibly later) 108 cars even though they had the full wheel cover. The mount you are talking about for the dogdish (spring, ball, etc) is only on the very early wheels (which I'm guessing are 5.5" x 14") - the later ones that took dogdishes just have these ears that the dog dish snaps over.

[JimFreeh]

Originally Posted by ScooterABC

The dogdish style wheels appeared on 1968 (and possibly later) 108 cars even though they had the full wheel cover. The mount you are talking about for the dogdish (spring, ball, etc) is only on the very early wheels (which I'm guessing are 5.5" x 14") - the later ones that took dogdishes just have these ears that the dog dish snaps over.

I had ball/spring type on both my 67 250SE and my 67 250SL. I was under the impression that the 68+ wheel would not take the small hubcap.

I stand corrected, thanks.

Jim

[ScooterABC]

Originally Posted by JimFreeh

I had ball/spring type on both my 67 250SE and my 67 250SL. I was under the impression that the 68+ wheel would not take the small hubcap.

That's interesting. Are they 6" wheels? And is there a date code on the wheels? My 67 250SL has steel wheels with 113 part numbers, my 67 and 68 250/280 S sedans both have 108 wheels. All of the have ears for the dog dish hubcaps but the 68 280S has the full wheel covers. I think that MB just used up old stock on the wheels. I'm assuming that the wheels on my 68 were probably produced in 1967 - not sure when the actual changeover for wheel styles was, but I think the ears vs. the ball-spring thing was earlier than 1967. I agree re: 1968 for the full wheel covers instead of the dog dish and beauty ring. The sl113 website has more info on wheels...

Scott

[JimFreeh]

Originally Posted by ScooterABC

That's interesting. Are they 6" wheels? And is there a date code on the wheels? My 67 250SL has steel wheels with 113 part numbers, my 67 and 68 250/280 S sedans both have 108 wheels. All of the have ears for the dog dish hubcaps but the 68 280S has the full wheel covers. I think that MB just used up old stock on the wheels. I'm assuming that the wheels on my 68 were probably produced in 1967 - not sure when the actual changeover for wheel styles was, but I think the ears vs. the ball-spring thing was earlier than 1967. I agree re: 1968 for the full wheel covers instead of the dog dish and beauty ring. The sl113 website has more info on wheels...

Scott

Scott,

Both cars are long gone, I had them in the mid seventies.
I needed a spare wheel at the time, and remember having to specifically seek out one that would retain a small hubcap.

Jim

[mercmad6.3]

my 1969 300SEl 6.3 (built at the beginning of 1969 ) has it's original 14 x 6.5 solid wall steel wheels . No cooling holes, they came later in that year. BUT they will also take a dog dish hubcap.I am running 225 x 14 tires. Not a common size anymore. The later 6.3 wheels have the cooling holes plus the vanes to direct air .
Only 6.3's came with the 6.5 " steel wheel.
All of my other 3.5's etc were 6" .
Bundts were only 6" wide until the 6.9 came out with the 6.5" rim. I have set of 15" bundts for it which are 7" wide . Those are slated for restoration before christmas this year..
My W110 wagon is rolling on a Set of W123 15 x5.5" steels. These are common in Asia on taxis (or were years ago) which is where mine came from, Hong kong actually.