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bmw320cd 02-06-2013 03:00 PM

mercedes w111 220se 1962
 
hello
I'm Italian and I write with a translator, I hope you understand me
I have a mercedes benz 220se W111 1962 and I have a problem ... I'd need a new fuel tank, because my after 25 years of inactivity and left half-full is completely rusted. thus become clogged pipes of gasoline and gasoline does not arrive to the injection pump.
I've already replaced all the filters (air, motor oil, automatic transmission, gasoline), but the problem persists. the mechanic says that it is an electrical problem and that the fuel pump in the tank works perfectly. is that only the ink tank is full of rust and makes clog the pipes
thanks for the anwswer

alabbasi 02-06-2013 04:27 PM

For a new tank, you need to contact the mercedes benz classic center. A radiator repair shop should be able to clean your tank and seal with with a sealer so that it will not rust.

Good luck

wbain5280 02-06-2013 11:27 PM

The electric fuel pump at the rear must also whir and pump the fuel. You will also need to replace the rubber fuel hose coupling sections and make sure the fuel filter canister is clean and free of rust particles.

There is no pump in the tank by the way.

You may need to replace the fuel lines as well.

USAROVER 02-07-2013 11:25 AM

I have the same car here in the USA. Good luck with the repair and keep us posted regarding your progress.

wbain5280 02-07-2013 06:45 PM

2 door or 4 door?

Marrs 02-07-2013 06:50 PM

Same car for me too, also a '62!

I had lots of problems with fuel delivery in my car also, finally took the tank out, sent to radiator shop and they cleaned inside with a chemical to remove rust and dirt, then resealed it so this will not happen again. One big issue for me was that I kept cleaning and changing fuel filters and finally realized it is the mesh screen inside the fuel tank that was getting clogged. This is what the screen looks like in our cars. You can sometimes just remove it and clean it out, but if it is very bad you need to replace.
Mercedes W108 W109 W110 W111 W112 Fuel Strainer in Bottom of Fuel Tank Genuine | eBay

This is a relatively cheap and easy part to get to so I would go ahead and clean or replace it if you have not yet considering all the trouble you're having. Do it while the tank is being cleaned and resealed if possible.

Also, do not use fuel injector cleaner in these cars, I did and that released much rust and dirt from the inside of my tank which caused the screen to clog in the first place. Get them out and drive them hard once in a while to clear the injectors, safer for the car, cheap and much more fun!

Good luck my friend and share some photos of your car with us!

Palolo 02-07-2013 10:59 PM

Quote:

Get them out and drive them hard once in a while to clear the injectors, safer for the car, cheap and much more fun!
The "Italian tune-up?" ;)

With an Italian owner, I think the car will get driven well... Guidare con brio!

wbain5280 02-07-2013 11:11 PM

The Italian tune up won't do anything to clean the injectors. The injection pump operates at approx 250 psi and there are small screens inside the injectors. It would be best to remove the injectors and send them for proper cleaning. Such services advertise in The Star mag and are also available in Europe.

In the mechanical FI system, cleanliness is next to Godliness.

harryskater 02-08-2013 02:12 AM

I cut a big opening in my tank.
I just was not convinced these fluids you can buy to restore the inside of the tank would work, so i took an angle grinder to it, after draining and filling with water. I cut a 300mm square hole, I then got inside with scotch brite and good old elbow grease and cleaned all the grime out and went over it again and again with fresh petrol until i could see my reflection. i also found alot of grime build up in the flow and return in/outlets in the tank. They were completely blocked so i used a small diameter rod, i think stainless welding wire to free it up then went through it with a long pipe cleaner then had a competent welder seal the hole up and check it for leaks.
I think this is the best way to be 100% sure the tank will not give you any more problems.

Marrs 02-14-2013 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harryskater (Post 3096663)
I cut a big opening in my tank.
I just was not convinced these fluids you can buy to restore the inside of the tank would work, so i took an angle grinder to it, after draining and filling with water. I cut a 300mm square hole, I then got inside with scotch brite and good old elbow grease and cleaned all the grime out and went over it again and again with fresh petrol until i could see my reflection. i also found alot of grime build up in the flow and return in/outlets in the tank. They were completely blocked so i used a small diameter rod, i think stainless welding wire to free it up then went through it with a long pipe cleaner then had a competent welder seal the hole up and check it for leaks.
I think this is the best way to be 100% sure the tank will not give you any more problems.

Did you do anything to seal the freshly exposed surfaces inside? Won't it just corrode again if not?

mercmad6.3 02-15-2013 05:38 AM

Ciao!, Benvenuti nel mondo di proprietà mercedes!. Iniziare sempre da ottenere il serbatoio ripulito. Sostituire tutti i tubi in gomma per pompa posteriore. . Sul supporto motore nella parte anteriore è un filtro del carburante. Compra 2 filtri nuovi. Sostituire il filtro con uno nuovo e sostituire le due linee di gomma al motore.
* 1 / ora .. fare il gioco delle valvole sul engine.Check la catena di distribuzione di usura.
2 / Controllare la compressione del motore effettuando una prova leakdown
3 / revisionare il sistema di accensione. DEVE essere perefct
4 / controllare il sistema coling. Sostituire la cinghia a forma di V e i tubi del radiatore.
5 / Cambiare l'olio e filtro olio.
6 / Montare una nuova batteria,
7 / avviare il motore e farlo funzionare.
C'è molto da fare in questi motori per accordare loro, ma ci sono le basi Thoe Buona fortuna!
* Dove in Italia sei?
Ho un amico a Pioltello.

bmw320cd 02-16-2013 10:29 AM

I try to answer all
mine is a Mercedes W111 coupe (2 door) 220se 1962, america lights, imported Swiss and then arrived in Italy .... My grandfather was of property
the machine is already perfectly marching, I changed all filters, spark plugs, cables, drain and unlock done directly in the center of the injection pump bosch, had a pumping locked and went 3-cylinder
I replaced all the fuel lines, hoses, etc. ... is the reservoir that is completely rusty and maybe when the machine is stopped for so long, is deposited on the bottom and is sucked by the pump that becomes clogged
I eventually found on ebay.com suitable tank 62 liter for 465 € (euro)
and I'm so buying solve all
I also changed the points and condenser in the distributor
Use unleaded gasoline as a 100 octane
here are some videos of my mercedes
mercedes benz w111 220se 1962 - YouTube

mercedes w111 220 se automatic drive - YouTube

mercmad6.3 02-18-2013 08:57 PM

Runs very nice! Congratulations!!:cool::cool::)

bmw320cd 07-09-2013 08:34 PM

I apologize for the absence, but I was very busy for a long time ...
I was able to change the tank in the mercedes and I have to say that finally goes very very well.
the only two things that do not go perfectly, are
the float inside the tank, does not mark the right level of gasoline
and the automatic transmission, which has cold slips until the oil changes as it heats up. the rest goes perfectly
here is a bunch of photos, including the differences between new and old tank ...
it seems that in the old fuel filter has been liquefied and folded ....

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Stretch 07-10-2013 02:33 AM

Beautiful car


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