W114 - are Coupe and saloon floor pans the same? - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

ChasesDragons · #1 11-11-2018, 01:25 AM

Hi all,
Plodding on with the refurb. I cannot locate replacement floorpans for my W114 COUPE. I can find the odd W114 floorpan that is designated "W114 SALOON".

Can someone advice if these can be used in Coupes? If mods are needed, wuld love some info on that too?

Many thanks

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Stretch · #2 11-11-2018, 03:15 AM

It is probably going to be the same - depends on exactly how far the replacement panel goes.

There are smaller repair panels and larger ones. There is a difference in wheel base between the coupe (W114) and saloon models but ideally the saloon should be called a W115 so there's a bit of confusion there...

...if you look on the klokkerholm site you can see that they have the same part numbers for their floor sections for the saloon and the coupe =>

https://www.klokkerholm.com/xProductCatalogue/productCatalogue.aspx?Group=103053

But it isn't clear how far these pieces extend (i.e. the pictures are crap)

Frank Reiner · #3 11-11-2018, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Stretch

It is probably going to be the same - depends on exactly how far the replacement panel goes.

There are smaller repair panels and larger ones. There is a difference in wheel base between the coupe (W114) and saloon models but ideally the saloon should be called a W115 so there's a bit of confusion there...

...if you look on the klokkerholm site you can see that they have the same part numbers for their floor sections for the saloon and the coupe =>

https://www.klokkerholm.com/xProductCatalogue/productCatalogue.aspx?Group=103053

But it isn't clear how far these pieces extend (i.e. the pictures are crap)

Stretch, old bean, all 114/115 models are on a 2750mm wheelbase, irrespective of the number of doors (special long WB models excluded).
W114 = 6 cylinder engines
W115 = 4 & 5 cylinder engines

Stretch · #4 11-11-2018, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank Reiner

Stretch, old bean, all 114/115 models are on a 2750mm wheelbase, irrespective of the number of doors (special long WB models excluded).
W114 = 6 cylinder engines
W115 = 4 & 5 cylinder engines

Oh cool! Thanks.

W123 is different (which makes the coupe look dreadful in my humble opinion - there you go yet another cat amongst the pigeons) - which I guess if you were to convert a W123 4 door to a two door and leave the same wheel base you'd have a nicer looking vehicle...

...I wonder - may be that could be a plan too...

gmog220d · #5 11-11-2018, 10:44 AM

FWIW - Years ago I got some floor mats, including the rears, from a U-Pull coupe that fit the floors of my sedan perfectly. So yeah, the floors seem to be the same between coupe and sedan.

ChasesDragons · #6 11-13-2018, 12:58 AM

Thank you guys. I am getting the rear part of the floorpan, in the coupe patched due to rust. I would much rather an entire pan was fitted.

I will have a look for saloon floorpans now.

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barry12345 · #7 11-30-2018, 05:31 PM

I welded aftermarket floor pans in a 1972 114 coupe. Do not remember any real issues. It was a long time ago. I believe both half section pans and full length pans where available for each side then. I welded in the full length half pans in.

ChasesDragons · #8 12-01-2018, 03:22 PM

Thanks Barry. From what I understand, the coupe floorpabs may have been available until about 6-10 years ago.

You may have used the Coupe correct ones, if it was before this era.

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huffandpuff · #9 12-02-2018, 07:45 PM

check with mill supply I bought 2 full floor pans for 300 with shipping for my 76 280c

ChasesDragons · #10 12-03-2018, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by huffandpuff

check with mill supply I bought 2 full floor pans for 300 with shipping for my 76 280c

That matches advice by posters above.

I will have a chat with local suppliers (Europe/UK) about these panels.

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Idle · #11 12-04-2018, 01:26 PM

I had a 115 with a floor rusted out. Rear passenger side.

It was not just rusted; it was hanging down and about to fall off rusted.

I could not find a 115 in good shape, so I used the floor pan from a 111.

I had to wrangle it a bit but it fit.

barry12345 · #12 12-07-2018, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ChasesDragons

Thanks Barry. From what I understand, the coupe floorpabs may have been available until about 6-10 years ago.

You may have used the Coupe correct ones, if it was before this era.

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Was before that period. Obviously if you find different part numbers listed for the coupe and sedan. They are different. How exactly I do not know. The aftermarket body panel manufacturers should still have a left over pair somewhere. Just not always. Probe the net if you have not.

ChasesDragons · #13 12-07-2018, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by barry12345

Was before that period. Obviously if you find different part numbers listed for the coupe and sedan. They are different. How exactly I do not know. The aftermarket body panel manufacturers should still have a left over pair somewhere. Just not always. Probe the net if you have not.

Got a call today - the welder had made replacement plates himself and welded all the bits up. So that is one horror ducked!

He has also found that the rear axle locating brackets are missing, which I am not too surprised by.

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