1967 250S power steering pump interchange

[aluminum]

Car is a 1967 250S sedan

What Years and models well Work ?

I want to Convert my Standard Steering to power Steering . I have the 1967

power steering Unit from a parts car ( 1967 250SE ) but not the Pump .
I note the 250S Front Crank Pulley takes Wide belts so I need a wide Belt Pump unless I change out the Crank Pulley.



As the car sits now it only has 1 Belt for the alternator and fan and 2 empty wide slots for wide Belts it look like .
Of course I know 1967 well work but what other Years and Models well work ? Example a 300 Mercedes pump perhaps ?


the Car is a bit Hard to turn for low speed parking and I want the wife to learn to drive it as well . It is a standard column shift 4 speed
and to Learn to shift and drive it well be perhaps better with Power steering I think.



My Guess is that I need a early type Pump ?

[801mbz]

I have one from a 220s that should work s and se use different brackets call me 801 706 6871

[aluminum]

Originally Posted by 801mbz

I have one from a 220s that should work s and se use different brackets call me 801 706 6871

Thanks for reply
I am simply trying to see what well Fit and work . I can get one Local I Expect are ton's of Salvage in CA . Your number suggests Salt Lake City UT. and Shipping most likley would be more then I can buy one here .


Just trying to discover if anyone knows what Years and Models fit Thanks

[cth350]

The S/SE straight 6 111/108 cars will be comparable, with the reservoir mounted at the top of the pump. The double belt is what benz considered necessary to keep driving the pump.

-CTH

[dobrodan]

Do you also have a correct steering column? I think the power and manual steering columns are different lengths. Could be wrong.

[801mbz]

dobrodan may be right cth is wrong straight 6 s & se brackets are different & the double pulley I never saw on a 6 cyl I am in slc I have dozens of motors and 75 cars from 1955 to 1985 and a pump bracket and reservoir if you can't find one

[aluminum]

Originally Posted by 801mbz

dobrodan may be right cth is wrong straight 6 s & se brackets are different & the double pulley I never saw on a 6 cyl I am in slc I have dozens of motors and 75 cars from 1955 to 1985 and a pump bracket and reservoir if you can't find one

Thanks guys

So the Column is different ? Darn ! That may put a stopper if correct.

Project Car (in Photo) 67 250S is a Column Shift 4 speed stick shift Column .

As such if they are different then I can't Swap the Power steering Box from my 67 250 SE ( automatic Transmission Column shift ) parts Car
Over to my 67 250 S stick shift Column then ?

Here is a Nice 1968 BTW : https://imgur.com/a/4VtrSXc

I looked at the steering Box's and although they are different lengths

it looked like they would just swap out . I was thinking I may have to swap out the Pitman arm as well perhaps . I suspected it may have a different Curve Power to non Power as the Box's are different Lengths



I have swapped Out many Non Power to Power Boxs before when I worked for Chev dealer in 1966 / 67 . The salesmen wanted to make that sale TODAY but the Pay was Good I thought back then .


But that's a Different Car all together.
Thanks form the input . I am off to Las Vegas for a week but well check closer when I get back to the coast . Most likley I well just have to pull the Power Unit and try it on ? is only I think 3 or 4 Bolts and pop the Arm loose then try it .
BTW
Whats different about them if you know by chance ?

[801mbz]

You may be able to swap just the shaft

[aluminum]

Originally Posted by 801mbz

You may be able to swap just the shaft

You thinking is ? that the shaft size is different perhaps ?
on a trip now for a week > But I looked close and the shaft size looks the same . it Looks like I could just Pull both Steering box's and swap them out

( I was hoping ) .. Of course the Column Shift Linkage ( 4 speed ) is different Totally I expect then the Auto trans Column linkage .


The Power steering Box is quite Longer but extends Down toward the Front of the Car not up toward the firewall , That seems to be in the same place

Most likley the Pitman Arm is different but I have them . Evan all the hose's are still on the 67 Pars Car in fact but no pump
This one came in today .. https://www.picknpull.com/vehicle_details.aspx?VIN=RNDE3cVgCDcM4bdZaTOgcsK8i


But I was about to leave San Francisco and was thinking it may have the Narrow belts rather then the wide Belts for the power steering box .. then I thought I better see if the Steering box's interchange or not first. Perhaps I could Change the Front Crank pulley tho the work continues lol