1962 190D, questions! - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

MEK · #1 01-04-2021, 04:55 PM

I wasn't sure if it made sense to post here or in the Diesel section.

A condensed story: I've owned, driven, & maintained several old MB diesels. My "holy grail" has always been a diesel fintail. This past spring I moved to a new neighborhood & noticed a nice old '62 while out walking my dog. After months of drooling I noticed a for sale sign!
The owner & I have reached a fair agreement on price. It runs & drives & probably doesn't need to much to be my around town grocery getter/head turner.

I do most of my own mechanical work & have a manual on the way, but I'm having a heck of a time tracking down basic parts like spare drive belt, fuel filter, oil filter etc. Do I just have to go through the dealer for this stuff?
That's my main question, any leads would be great.
Also, the wipers aren't working which doesn't jive with rainy NW weather! Gotta get that fixed first.
Thanks,
MEK

meltedpanda · #2 01-05-2021, 11:37 AM

First and foremost This site sponsor , Rock auto any of those will work. Some of the big dealers out of Atlanta offer good pricing. Parts should be easy to find

MEK · #3 01-05-2021, 07:06 PM

Believe it or not Pelican has zero results for oil & air filter for a '62 190d.
Looks like ******** does have both, but I can't seem to find a fan belt, mine is fine but I'd like a spare.
Mk

MEK · #4 01-05-2021, 07:31 PM

Actually I think the issue with me searching for parts on Pelican is they don't have an option for a '62 190d w110...so if I search for a '63 190d w110 I see there are way more options except still no oil filter choices?
Mk

cth350 · #5 01-05-2021, 08:53 PM

your other other option is the Mercedes Classic Center in California. They will have everything and are infinitely more knowledgeable than your local dealer (unless you happen to live in Manhattan; that dealership is the only one actually owned by Daimler Benz).

When in doubt, contact a human at Pelican Parts rather than just going by the online catalog and its generic faults.

-CTH

Idle · #6 01-06-2021, 01:12 PM

About the wipers.....

Go to your fuse box, which is under the hood on the left hand said of the firewall, and pull the fuses one at a time and clean the ends of the fuses and the inside of the clips they go into. I have found this is almost a standard thing when picking up an old Porsche, Mercedes or Volvo that uses the types of fuses that were then in use.

This may not fix your problem but it is something that usually needs to be done. And if nothing else will eliminate that as the source of your trouble.

Also check for a straight up burned out fuse. Some of these fuses have very thin filaments and they build up electrical resistance over the year. Replacing them all with new ones is not an expensive thing.

Idle · #7 01-06-2021, 01:14 PM

Also.....

The electrical connections then were usually plated in sliver to keep them from rusting out. These will tarnish and build up enough resistance to keep the current from coming through.

Carefully remove the plug from your wiper motor and hit the contacts with some electrical contact cleaner. This may take awhile as these old connections can take some time to work loose.

Sugar Bear · #8 01-06-2021, 03:26 PM

I'm guessing it doesn't have a replaceable air filter element; rather, a washable reusable oil bath type.

Belts can be matched by dimension. Re: fuel filters and oil filters I cannot help.

Good luck!!!

KCM · #9 01-07-2021, 12:15 PM

First, congratulations on your purchase. Those base model fintails are definitely unique and I personally like the single headlight styling over the upper level fintail headlights. Plus the base model cars are simple and easier to keep up.

Concerning maintenance items, they are readily available from non-Mercedes dealer sources. The air filter is an oil bath so there is no air filter, just clean and put new engine oil in it. I did find a fuel and oil filter on Rock Auto and I know they are available from other sources. I did not find a V-belt but there is nothing special about that and can easily be matched up at a local auto parts store. The belt I believe only fits the 1961 to 1965 190Dc as the 200D had an alternator which I think used a different belt.
The fuel filter will be the same for all 190Dc and 200D models from 1961 to 1967. The oil filter only fits the 1961 to 1965 190Dc models as the 200D used a smaller filter. One probably little known fact is that the oil filter on the 190Dc is the same as the 1940's and 1950's Ford flathead 226 engine, which is readily available. The only issue is they do not come with the sealing o-ring for the filter canister, so you need to either reuse the o-ring or buy those separately. The usual filter brands are Hengst, Mann, and Mahle. The fine screen filter in the oil filter canister is reusable and should be washed out at every oil change.

The wipers could very well be due to a fuse as has previously been mentioned. They get corroded then lose contact. The wiper are pretty bullit-proof on those cars, though the linkages connecting the motor to the arms and the wiper arm "spindles" can get worn if the wipers were used a lot.

A bit of advice: make sure you do the proper maintenance on the car. There are a bunch of grease fittings on the front suspension, steering, drive shaft, and rear axle pivots. The front suspension is old school so pivots are the old threaded type that can lock up if not greased regularly, like every oil change. Check the differential oil regularly as they tend to leak, and top off with 80/90W gear lube. Also check the injection pump oil level using the check plug on the side, topping off with engine oil. The injection pumps tend to seep diesel fuel into the pump oil reservoir, so this fuel needs to be drained off when the check plug is removed and topped off with the engine oil.

I probably can dig up some part numbers, but don't have them handy now.

Sugar Bear · #10 01-07-2021, 12:48 PM

@KCM Does that car have the injection pump that needs the oil level checked and after 60 years changed? Thanks.

KCM · #11 01-07-2021, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sugar Bear

@KCM Does that car have the injection pump that needs the oil level checked and after 60 years changed? Thanks.

It definitely needs to be checked. I don't recall there being a drain plug, just the check plug on the side and a tin pan that can be removed on the bottom. If you remove the delivery pump on the side most of the oil would probably drain out, but to get it all out you would need to remove the pump or the pan on the bottom. I know the OM616 and OM617 engines on the W123 body were oiled directly from the engine oil supply, but the OM621 pump is not connected the main engine oil supply.

Sugar Bear · #12 01-07-2021, 10:51 PM

There is a factory? procedure using mineral oil and air bubbles to agitate the mineral oil to clean the injection pump oil reservoir.

Fitts07 · #13 01-08-2021, 11:17 AM

Welcome to Fintail ownership! Make sure to comb though the car's systems, especially brakes! Post some pictures of your car! Here's my 1968 230

MEK · #14 01-10-2021, 10:22 PM

Wow thanks for all the great info!
I will post pics & updates as soon as things settle down, my work schedule is nuts right now.
Thanks again,
Mek

MEK · #15 01-10-2021, 11:23 PM

Actually two quick questions regarding info that's been posted:
For motor oil, will 10w40 Rotella be a good choice for mild NW weather? That's what I always used in my old 240d.
Also: greasing the chasis

I've done quite extensive repair & maintenance on my old vehicles over the years but I've never greased a chasis!

I have an old classic silver grease gun I inherited, its filled with red grease.
Do I need any special attachments?
How does one get the grease in to the fittings?
Are the fittings easy to locate?
Do I need the weight off the front end while I'm doing it?

Btw the car was a "Sunday driver " for the previous owner & a partial restoration was already done, so I'm lucky...it's not like the car's been in a barn for years!

Thanks,
Mek