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Old 01-31-2021, 05:53 PM
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Redline Weber

Ok throughly frustrated!!!

So the PO removed the Zenith's on my 1970 W114 250C and replaced them with the Weber's at some point. FYI I have 114.023 Engine.

I have a gas leak in the carbs and they won't crank. They did set for a little bit and may have gotten ethanoled (I'm trademarking that as derogatory!).

Anyway, I know they are Redline as they are stamped that way and are MADE IN SPAIN and have WEBER all over the place and are DGAV 32/36. I sent Redline an email a couple of months ago and they responded with a lot of information and it took awhile for me to send them some photo's of the setup (didn't see the model numbers anywhere as this is my 1st stab at carburetors). However, after SEVERAL attempts at trying to give them info on the carbs to get rebuild kits, i can't get them jokers to return emails or answer the freaking phone.

Anyone know what the heck is going on with them??!

If I wanted to go back to Zenith's INATs what all would that entail? I eventually planned to go back to them as I'm restoring the car to as factory as i can but wanted to wait awhile before I did that.


TIA!

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Old 01-31-2021, 06:38 PM
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I have some zeniths if you want to go back to them call me 801706 6871
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Old 01-31-2021, 08:01 PM
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Crap. My engine is the 130.
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Old 01-31-2021, 08:02 PM
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One more time... engine130 923 12 000912. Kids!!! Lol
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Old 02-01-2021, 10:30 AM
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Ok throughly So the PO removed the Zenith's on my 1970 W114 250C and replaced them with the Weber's at some point. FYI I have 114.023 Engine.

I have a gas leak in the carbs and they won't crank. They did set for a little bit and may have gotten ethanoled
What do you mean when you say "they won't crank"?
If you leave webers for a long time the idle jets may get gummy. Try cleaning them.

Rebuild kits are available many places, including Amazon. Google it.
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Old 02-01-2021, 11:55 AM
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What do you mean when you say "they won't crank"?
If you leave webers for a long time the idle jets may get gummy. Try cleaning them.

Rebuild kits are available many places, including Amazon. Google it.
They was little to no fuel going into the cylinders. Threw carb cleaner at it and got nowhere.

Started looking into it and I have bad gaskets (leaks in several places) and trash in the carbs as my tank had some trash in it. I had contacted Redline as they are the 'only' distributor for Weber's and the kits. I've read the stories here and Benzworld and other sites saying this. Not going to take a chance on Amazon, eBay, or others. I was also having trouble in determining whether i had actually true Weber's but have figured it out that they appear to be authentic which was another reason i contacted them.

I have no idea how long they have been on the car but i suspect it's a long time as i have some extensive maintenance history and nothing mentions the carbs.
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Is this who you are trying to contact?
WEBER Carburetors distributed by Redline : Mercedes Benz
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Old 02-01-2021, 01:03 PM
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Yes.
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Old 02-02-2021, 01:31 AM
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If it sat and has trash in the tank and carb you need to open them up and clean them. Crap in the Jets and emultion tubes is your problem. There should be a filter stoping the crap in the tank for the most part. Put a couple universals inline if it's really bad. You can get sheets of gasket material at most parts stores to replace bowl gaskets and other simple ones. Trace and cut with a good razor knife. A leather punch with the rotating different size punch head works great for the screw holes. Cheap at harbor freight. When cleaning jets and any holes in a carb, get some stranded copper electrical or speaker wire and pull some single strands out, use that to clean them. DO NOT USE A TINY DRILL BIT or anything steel like pins or guitar strings or whatever. Copper only. If you scratch the jets they are not calibrated anymore. If you can't make Webber's work you can't make zeniths work.

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Old 02-03-2021, 10:59 PM
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Lots of ways to clean out the carb's But the car will only run with compression :
I would check the compression before anything else . Good compression should be 150 +or - 15 Lbs . Clean carbs or not it will not run without compression, start their and save yourself a Lot of head scratching .
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Old 02-16-2021, 02:15 PM
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Thanks Aluminum. Not seeing much of a problem there; however i will check it as it is on my to do list. But I have leaks galore from the carb so i need to do that first.

I finally got hold of Redline. I have nothing nice to say about them. I don't like being called a liar let alone multiple times. I'm going to get the car running to make sure everything is working while driving down the road and then will get rid of them and will NOT BUY ANOTHER WEBER product again. I would be saying some awfully bad language right now but I would not prefer to get thrown off here. I may make my gaskets and scrounge around seals from somewhere to get it going. Unbelievable.
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Old 02-16-2021, 04:29 PM
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If you sent Redline pics of the carb including numbers I see no reason for them to doubt you. Any reason not to try again? I have found that holding a grudge generally does me no good and the other party just does not care.
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Old 03-03-2021, 12:51 PM
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Smile

Got my rebuild kits from Pierce Manifolds (very nice people!) and will be working on them this weekend.

Wish me luck as it'll be the first time!
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Wish me luck as it'll be the first time!

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Old 03-04-2021, 12:27 PM
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My wife hates the smell of carb cleaner. Keeping it and anything touches it outside made her happier, but still I warn her about it ahead of time.

Doing one carb at time so that you have a ready-reference at all times is a good idea too.

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