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Old 07-29-2004, 04:44 PM
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You definitely have a project there. I've been following closely becaue I want a 108, but the uncle I work for (car dealership as a mechanic) is a Chevy guy. I would like to put a 327 in one if possible some day. What kind of performance do you get out of it? I'm 18 and stupid, so I care.
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Old 07-29-2004, 05:15 PM
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You definitely have a project there. I've been following closely becaue I want a 108, but the uncle I work for (car dealership as a mechanic) is a Chevy guy. I would like to put a 327 in one if possible some day. What kind of performance do you get out of it? I'm 18 and stupid, so I care.
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Performance as in???? I've never done a 1/4 mile or anything like that with it to see exactly what it could do, nor have I tested it to see how fast it could do 0-60 mph. I doubt I will either, although I only live a few miles from a quarter mile drag track that ANYONE can enter ANY kind of car in just for funsies.....

My whole objective to building this car was this: I wanted a "peppy" motor, that would be highly reliable and fun to drive. I never had the desire to be able to "burn the wheels off", and have honestly never even tried to see if she'd burn rubber (as much time as I have spent working on this thing, the LAST thing I want to do is do something stupid to F* it up! ) I am more interested in just enjoying the car, and my long term objective is to put her in to shows, not race other people. But she has good "get up and go" if that's what you're wanting to know. But I HAVE raced the old beast a couple of times, I must admit. Once against a '78 Monte Carlo with a 350 chevy in it, and I smoked em.... HEHEHE! Needless to say, they were shocked! I also raced some gal in an old 80's model RX7 with it too.... smoked her as well. So no doubt, if you're lookin to have some fun, a 327 ought to do it for you! LOL!

There are a few obstacles you'd have to avoid in putting in a v8, that COULD possibly be fairly simple if you know what to watch out for.... which is one of the reasons we avoided the whole v8 thing in the first place. But knowing what I know now, I think I could easily slap a 350v8 in it without a hitch.... live and learn as they say! Also, with your dad being a mechanic, with his knowledge of Chevy engines and my knowledge of the conversion process for the 108, it would be pretty simple. All in all though, I like all the room in the engine compartment that the little v6 gives me... and since I can smoke a Monte.... I'm happy enough with the Hp!

If you get serious about getting a 108 and decide to undertake the conversion, give me a shout.....

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Old 07-29-2004, 05:28 PM
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Oh and by the way WANT '71 280SEL, would you be so kind as to ask your dad if he knows if they made a driver's side exhaust manifold that exhausted at the back? Mine exhausts in the center (thereabouts), and I don't like it too well. However, I don't know if they made one that exhausted in the back. Does that make sense? Just in case, I'll explain it one other way.....

looking at the side of the motor, my exhaust manifold exhausts downward just almost at the center of the manifold. WHat I need though, is one that exhausts downward at the very rear (by the firewall) of the manifold.

The reason being is that my exhaust manifold/steering column clearances are very tight. However, if I switched to a manifold that exhausted at the rear, I would have lots of room. I don't know if they made a manifold like that for the 229v6 though.

Sure, I COULD cut my steering linkeage and put in a couple of knuckles and solve the problem that way too..... BUT I would sure rather have a rear exhausting manifold instead.......

I would appreciate the help.....
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What did you do about the engine mounts? A pic would be helpful.

I had a 190C (W110) for a few years and one of my cats would show up with grease all over his back. I figured he was scratching his back on the lower grease nipples.
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Please get rid of the wing...


The rear suspension looks normal actually, are you sure its been raised? The front subframe bushings on these cars go dead, which drops the front but that rear looks like just about any other 108 /w the spring compensator that I've owned/seen.
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Old 07-30-2004, 02:27 AM
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Stock reminds me of a very good point on the weight shift..... Kingpin suspension (well maintained) is tough as nails, but without new subframe bushings, anti-sway bar and suspension goodies the front end might shake itself to death.

...... but keep the wing - it will kinda remind everybody of the late '60s Dodge Charger Daytona. Since you are building a hybrid here, contemporary dragster gear from 1968 like those Craeger style rear wheels are perfect. Does the car have a Hurst shifter?

Maybe even get yourself some side pipes after you have figured out the manifold dilemma. If the car turns into a rocking horse while jumping off the line, you will be glad not to have exhaust pipes interfering with rear axles.
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Old 07-30-2004, 01:00 PM
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What did you do about the engine mounts? A pic would be helpful.

I had a 190C (W110) for a few years and one of my cats would show up with grease all over his back. I figured he was scratching his back on the lower grease nipples.
The engine mounts are standard chevy engine mounts, bolted on to a welded on plate. Nothing spectacular..... I'll see if I can muster up some photos of it.......
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Please get rid of the wing...


The rear suspension looks normal actually, are you sure its been raised? The front subframe bushings on these cars go dead, which drops the front but that rear looks like just about any other 108 /w the spring compensator that I've owned/seen.

Naw... ain't gettin rid of the wing.... I like it, although with the crappy paint and what not it looks kinda weird..... but we're going after more of a modern euro look.... I saw clean black 250s about 5 years ago with one on... the paint was immaculate, and it had a similar wing on it... I loved it, which is why I did it....

The rear actually IS raised, but only slightly.... and inch and a half or so. I wanted to raise it, but did NOT want to get freakish about it..... so it's nothing that's REAL super apparent.... just a slight sort of thing....
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Old 07-30-2004, 01:17 PM
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Stock reminds me of a very good point on the weight shift..... Kingpin suspension (well maintained) is tough as nails, but without new subframe bushings, anti-sway bar and suspension goodies the front end might shake itself to death.

...... but keep the wing - it will kinda remind everybody of the late '60s Dodge Charger Daytona. Since you are building a hybrid here, contemporary dragster gear from 1968 like those Craeger style rear wheels are perfect. Does the car have a Hurst shifter?

Maybe even get yourself some side pipes after you have figured out the manifold dilemma. If the car turns into a rocking horse while jumping off the line, you will be glad not to have exhaust pipes interfering with rear axles.
I plan to go through all the bushings and what not after I get the car all cleaned back up. But believe it or not, this car only has 69,000 original miles on it. Just spent way too much time in the sun......

The wing right now is just setting on the car...... it's not bolted on yet. I set it on there first, just to get used to it and see how I liked it. Its been on there about 2 weeks now, and so far, I'm liking it.... I just have to imagine it painted. I've seen numerous 80's model sedans with rear spoilers, and I always liked them. Gave them that sporty look that I am going after. Soooooo....

Just a darn shame I can't find ground effects for it like some of the 80's model sedans had....

Again, I'm not looking to race the thing, just make it a little more "sporty", so no dragster gears for sure. LOL!. And no, no hurst shifter either, since it's an automatic transmission. It's all tied in to the original gear shifter.......

As far as side pipes.... now I KNOW you are being sarcastic... lol. Aint no way in hell I would ever put side pipes on anything... I hate those things. lol. I just cant imagine side pipes on a Benz... but then again, who would have imagined the rear wing on a 68? lol!

But as far as the exhaust actually goes.... we are installing stainless steel dual exhaust, with dynaflows. A little bit of a low rumble, but not noisy..........
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Here is a 86 500 Series, with ground effects AND a rear spoiler, which is more of the look that we are going for with our '68. The type of wheels it has are similar to what we are looking at for our '68 as well.......


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It's been a good day!

Have spent the day chasing sponsors for our car. I already have a sponsor for our tires and wheels, and a sponsor for a new exhasut system. We're also working on trying to get a partial sponsor for our audio system. Lots of choices out there. Have talked to several, but the first thing out of their mouth is always about "Killer Bass". Ok, Ok, killer bass is cool. I will admit. But I want the car to sound like a home theater... that's my first objective. After all, it IS a Mercedes, and I want to have a totally AWEOME surround system, capable of all forms of music... not just bass. If all I wanted to do was make noise, I'd take the mufflers off the car. LOL!

We hope to have the car show ready and competition ready by Jan 2005.........
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UPDATE!

Found an audio manufacturer that has the same thoughts I do (no wise cracks!). I have talked to several, and like I said, all they seem to be interested in is Bass. However, this particular Manufacturer is interested in sound quality..... which is what I want. They have the bass too, which is a nice complimentary item, but their focus is QUALITY. They're the first I have talked to that have really made that statement... that sound quality is their goal. I'm really excited about that. One moment while I do a little dance.....

Ok, all better now. Anyway, it's nice to finally find someone who is concerned with what I am. Moreover, they seem to be really good people. I have been impressed by the amount of time they have been willing to spend talking to me, and emailing me back and forth. Moreover, I like how they treat me, in the fact that I am far from being any form of a audio guru, yet they don't talk to me like I'm stupid, which I appreciate..... I just hope it all works out!

Well, anyway, this week we pull the "beast" down to my shop, to continue stripping it apart.... doors, hood, fenders, windows, etc., etc., so we can finish getting ready for paint. Meanwhile, this weekend we are headed off to Tulsa to a large car show up there. There is supposed to be alot of manufactures present at this show, and I am wanting to talk to some of them.... such as custom fiberglass work, custom wood, etc., etc. Woohoo! Hopefulyl the ones I am wanting to talk to will be there.....


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Just picked up another converted 250S. It is a '67 model with a 350 v8! SWEET! Picked it up CHEAP!!!!!! We get it Sunday.....




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That actually looks pretty neat. A buddy of mine, who's a Chevy nut, would be very impressed. I presume that 250S has a Turbo-Hydramatic. Is the rear end stock or has it been changed too?

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