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Old 03-26-2005, 02:03 AM
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Question Confusion with camshaft timing mark- 2 identical engines.

I have 2 Mercedes with the M130.923 engine (carburetor versions).

I rececently installed a new Timing chain on the 250 model with the camshaft aligned to 11 degrees BTDC (as per shop manual)

The 250 doesn't run very well, even with the rebuilt carburetors.

So, I check the camshaft mark on my 280 model, and it is 9 degrees ATDC (the timing chain is almost as tight as the new installation on the 250).
This 280 runs real sweet set up this way, and the carbs on it are way overdue for rebuilding.

So why do I have a great running 280 with the camshaft timing set incorrectly at 9 degrees ATDC?

The 250 is set to Shop manual specs and it runs poorly at 11 degrees BTDC.

And yes, all tune up parts and valve clearances are new and adjusted.

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1970 280S M130 engine- good runner
1971 250 M130 engine- #2 rod bearing, gone
1971 280SE (blown engine,parts car)
1977 German 280S W116-only 33 years old

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Old 03-26-2005, 09:43 AM
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I think you are talking ignition specs ..
Cam timing is set at TDC. If it is not at TDC when the cam index is aligned with the tower indicator, the chain is streached.
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Old 03-26-2005, 11:12 PM
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Checked the tensioner, problem found

It separated into 2 peices. The worn tension ring allowed the inner to seperate from the outer. It is keeping the chain too tight, by not allowing the tensioner to vary with load. In other words, it is a fixed length.

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1971 250 M130 engine- #2 rod bearing, gone
1971 280SE (blown engine,parts car)
1977 German 280S W116-only 33 years old
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