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WOW! thanks, andy

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Old 03-06-2001, 01:25 AM
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Look what I found! It's true! A ZX Benz...

http://www.collectorcartraderonline.com/addetail.html?7563536
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Exclamation tranny

DAS220D, i read on here somewhere that you are looking for the exact transmission that i have.... its a rebuilt automatic tranny from a 1970 250c. im asking 100$ from the transmission (rebuilt) and 100$ shipping to most addresses in the US. please let me know if you are interested.. i cant find your email anywhere on here.. mines clubbcustoms@yahoo.com


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Old 11-22-2005, 09:35 PM
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Anybody ever put a datsun 5 speed in an old mercedes? I was just curious. Seems like all you would need is a special adapter plate and the proper linkage. This would be a good swap as datsun five speeds out of junked z-cars are pretty readily available. Let me know what you all think.

The believe the original 240Z was designed by a german and the in-line 6 was modeled after the Mercedes engine of that time.
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hummmmm........
I often wonder what sort of real vintage cars the street rod crowd could put together if they ever grew up. Not that mods can't be fun but most of the stuff I see is tarted up American junk from the ' 50s and ' 60's that's not even safe to drive.

Most of these guys just HAVE to install a V8 - ANY V8; and usually a new 350 with fuel injection, power steering, AC, cruise control, tilt steering, 4 wheel disc brakes, auto trans, the latest in sound or electronic equipment, every mechanical bit replaced with all new, non original parts , etc, etc. Lots of chrome in the engine bay and big assed wheels to go with it all. The only thing that's original is a coke bottle they found in the trunk.

For the most part they actually hate old cars. They only like the way they look. And, they want it to be titled as a 1953 whatever to avoid all sorts of regs that go with newer cars.

I do however , like vintage hot rods - real ones from the day and I really do have an appreaciation for good workmanship or attention to detail. Not that many steet rods I've seen meet that threshold. The ones that do are built by some very smart guys but I still don't like them very much.

People who go out out today and butcher a perfectly good 1930's era, steel bodied coupe or conv. just to make a steet rod out of it, should be shot and pissed on, and then burried in their own sh$t. And maybe not in that order either......

This might not be what tarting up old MB cars is all about - but then, maybe it is..........
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Old 12-26-2010, 07:49 AM
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Roy you managed to dredge up one of the strangest threads I have ever seen!
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Old 12-26-2010, 07:50 AM
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The believe the original 240Z was designed by a german and the in-line 6 was modeled after the Mercedes engine of that time.
This is true and the only post I can bring myself to respond to!
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Roy you managed to dredge up one of the strangest threads I have ever seen!
How does he do this? What was he looking for that he came across this thread?


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This is true and the only post I can bring myself to respond to!
Tom --- I'm thinking your posts are the only ones I can respond to. We have a sprinkling of white stuff on the ground here this morning. I'm sure you got your share of snow. Hope you had a Merry Christmas. Stay warm and safe.
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hummmmm........
I often wonder what sort of real vintage cars the street rod crowd could put together if they ever grew up.
hummmm........

I always liked modifying my cars, and I always made the purists jump in the air, mainly in forums. I have to live with it. The irony of the thing is that when such purists see my car they don't necessarily realize it is modified, sometimes heavily, and it already happened that I got compliments on how nice the car is and how important it is to keep it original. This is because I'm trying to keep things within what the factory could have done, even if I sometimes cheat with some anachronic combinations or parts from other brands. But it has to look original.

My pleasure is to make my car or motorbike drive or ride better. I could just buy a better, more powerful vehicle, but that's not what I'm interested in. Driving a car that I (re)built and modified that is homogenous and works well and constantly work on it to make it better is the best part of my pleasure. Of course that's very personal as what is homogenous, or better in my eyes may not be in someone else's eyes. I don't like what some people do to their car while I recognize the amount of craftmanship gone into it is sometimes amazing. I also realize that what I do with my cars may not be everybody else's cup of tea. So in the end, I think we should do what makes us happy with our cars and respect what makes others happy with their cars.
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Old 12-26-2010, 11:28 AM
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I'm no purist. I have a hot rodder's heart that usually goes mostly unacted on. It's just tough to beat the quality and engineering that goes into a benz. My 83 240d has been modified extensively to create a car that would not otherwise exist. It has a 300d euro motor, a 5 speed and the 307 diff from a turbo car, and finally an exhaust system from the turbo car. All done with factory parts, just rearranged to suite my desires.

I have gotten 35 mpg with regularity with it and if I take a trip going 55 I know I can hit 40 mpg. I just cannot stand driving 55 for that long!
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hummmm........

I always liked modifying my cars, and I always made the purists jump in the air, mainly in forums. I have to live with it. The irony of the thing is that when such purists see my car they don't necessarily realize it is modified, sometimes heavily, and it already happened that I got compliments on how nice the car is and how important it is to keep it original. This is because I'm trying to keep things within what the factory could have done, even if I sometimes cheat with some anachronic combinations or parts from other brands. But it has to look original.

My pleasure is to make my car or motorbike drive or ride better. I could just buy a better, more powerful vehicle, but that's not what I'm interested in. Driving a car that I (re)built and modified that is homogenous and works well and constantly work on it to make it better is the best part of my pleasure. Of course that's very personal as what is homogenous, or better in my eyes may not be in someone else's eyes. I don't like what some people do to their car while I recognize the amount of craftmanship gone into it is sometimes amazing. I also realize that what I do with my cars may not be everybody else's cup of tea. So in the end, I think we should do what makes us happy with our cars and respect what makes others happy with their cars.

I did the same thing with my Nomad. I bought it from a guy who had purchased a one owner 69000 mile 1957 Nomad with the intent of CUTTING IT INTO A PRO STREET ROD! Once he got her home, he just could not do it and so it came to me. I did some mods, but they were to make it safer and more reliable. Things like replacing the front drums with modern power disc brakes, seat belts, radial tires, new exhaust, ignition and carburetion systems and sway bars. The car looked stock and still spun her original 283 and powerglide.
I loved that car.
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One of my other hobby car loves are Volvo's, 240's, 740's, stuff like that. While manual trans are much, much more common in them than Mercedes of the era, they are not great and still fairly rare. Due to the consistent demand over the last ten years I've watched it go from no options to one being able to buy darn near every part to BOLT IN a T5 trans now, and for a pretty reasonable cost at that. It was an effort on several people's part over a long time, and it took awhile to get cheap, but the demand was and likely will always be there. Car guys like manual transmissions, all there is to it. Mercedes knew this perfectly well as one could get such things in Europe, it was a marketing and monetarily motivated decision at the time I suppose not to offer them in the US. If a bunch of kids with Volvo's can overcome this, so can Mercedes guys.
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Wink 190/5.8 Ford update....

Since my reply/post of 3/01, my 190 has been updated to a 354" motor using a 4 bolt main block bored .070 and stroked .400". This motor has 450 hp and 410 lbs of torque. The diff has been updated also to a '92 T'bird unit with a 3.55 gear with a torsen style diff. The front shocks are now dble. adjustable Konis,
new swaybars and springs from a 600SL and rear spings from a 124 TE wagon.
I've been running in many track events with different clubs including NASA which I've now won TTR-SE (time trial race class) for the third year in a row.

Many other features such as a Canton accusump, steel fender flares and 9.5 X 17" Vette wheels have been done along with 13" front and 12" rear rotors make the car such a fun track toy. Unfortunately the car will be replaced by another German product under construction for debut in 2011. Asking price is $13,500 for the 190 toy

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Old 12-26-2010, 02:50 PM
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One of my other hobby car loves are Volvo's, 240's, 740's, stuff like that. While manual trans are much, much more common in them than Mercedes of the era, they are not great and still fairly rare. Due to the consistent demand over the last ten years I've watched it go from no options to one being able to buy darn near every part to BOLT IN a T5 trans now, and for a pretty reasonable cost at that. It was an effort on several people's part over a long time, and it took awhile to get cheap, but the demand was and likely will always be there. Car guys like manual transmissions, all there is to it. Mercedes knew this perfectly well as one could get such things in Europe, it was a marketing and monetarily motivated decision at the time I suppose not to offer them in the US. If a bunch of kids with Volvo's can overcome this, so can Mercedes guys.
The Volvo crowd is much more dynamic than the MB one when it comes to adapting/modifying. I guess the different personality groups in a society extends into the cars they like. People who like MBs are usually more conservative than the ones who like VWs for ex. That said some people on the BenzWorld W126 group are quite dynamic and have been reproducing performance items for the M117 engine and W126 body. Here in the Performance Padock there also have been good discussions about producing a manual transmission conversion kit for the M117 engine that hopefully will come to fruition one day.

I personally have transformed and reinforced a 6cyl 5speed transmission with parts from a V8 four speed one and mated it to an early 5.0 M117. That's not possible on later blocks as the bolt pattern changed but there are other options that would allow the use of Getrag or T5 transmissions.

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