I am helping a good friend of mine locate a diesel fintail. We have looked at 2 thus far, and havent found the right one yet.

Could anybody tell me if MB put a diesel in Fintails with the stacked headlights?
The stacked headlight cars seem better proportioned to me, the hood looks longer and sleeker, and the headlights fill the front of the fenders nicely.

So far the 2 cars we have looked at have been questionable. The first car was a 1968 200D- The interior was flawless, but the exterior was suffering from some rust.. the bumpers had rust holes, and cracks and crevices were also marred by rust. In addition, the owner was asking $11,000. INSANE. It did have the rare sunroof though.

The second car was a Palm Springs resident- a 1967 200D, and its body is rust free and in nice shape. Paint has some light oxodizing, and the interior is nearly flawless. HOWEVER, the seller (an MB tech) has the engine out and is haviing it rebuilt. He plans on having the engine back, and a new transmission in by 3 weeks. He is also going to go over the brakes and suspension and have make any necessary repairs. He is asking $7k.

Both cars though have the typical short front end and single headlights. Which are just fine, but if there are any stacked headlight diesel fintails out there, thats even better! Did MB make any?

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Mercedes did not produce stacked headlight diesel models.The stacked headlights were only featured on 220,220S and 230S models.The 200,200D and 230 also 190 were round lights.I heard that the 200,200D,190,and 190D are a little slow on the acceleration and are laggers on the highway.I could be wrong.My '68 230S (sold) was a great runner.Always performed great on the highway.That same car is for sale and I can get you partnered with the owner (who is also a member on the forum)if your interested.
-Nilesh

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you could do what Walter Klatt did, and mount a 2.5l diesel in an older car. He used a 230sl as the receiving chassis, but the idea is the same.

-CTH

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Thanks for the info guys!

Yes the 200D series cars are very underpowered... the 1968 model we looked at was slow, but once it got going it could keep up with most traffic. My friend had a 1978 240D, so hes used to going slow, and the car isnt going to be used for more than a wvo powered around town car. Hes looking for the nicest diesel fintail he can find, has no set budget.

I LOVE the stacked headlight fintails.. they look gorgeous! Id love to drop a 617 turbo into one!

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1993 Volvo 244 sold
1995 Volvo 944T R.I.P!


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In Europe, I've heard, it's not uncommon to transplant one of the 5 cylinder diesels into older six-cylinder gas Mercedes.

Many years ago, while driving through Leesburg, Virginia, I stopped to look at a roadside Fintail that was for sale. It looked like a 220b, with the long front end and stacked headlights, but it had a 190 badge on the trunk. To my suprise there was a 4 cylinder under the hood. At first, it looked like someone had transplanted a 190 engine into a 220, but visible welds underhood suggested that they actually transplanted a 220 front end onto a 190!

Happy Motoring, Mark

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No it is not a Diesel, but a very nice gasoline powered 6 cyl beauty that I am going to sell .... new tires and starter, good interior, excellent outside and inside ... if anyone is interested in a nice "Fintail" model.

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1976 Mercedes 450SEL 130K (Just sold - 06)
1961 Mercedes 220Sb (sold years ago)

a Red one? posted somewhere here a couple of days ago?

the stacked headlight front ends dont just look longer, they are longer. the sheet metal is longer and i am not sure but the wheelbase may be a couple inches longer too.

i like the short fronts from the front but from the side they look a little.....short. i like the stacked look too but it looks best with the euro lights. they work very well too.

tom w

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

The 110 is noticably nimbler too, like for parallel parking with manual steering. Considerably lighter in weight but lacks the rock solid feeling of riding on rails at top speed long haul touring of the 220Sb. I've owned both and driven em cross-country. The 111 is hard to beat on the highway, but the 190c is a better city car. Both are absolute animals in the snow, geared low with weight at each corner and heavy swing axles.

yep. i agree. and have owned both but a long time ago.

a few years ago i went to look at a finney that was for sale. it was very rusty but i drove it anyway just for fun. it still drove great, typical benz, and felt pretty modern in the way it drove, too.

tom w

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

The W110 and W111 fintails have the same wheelbase. All the extra inches in the W111 are ahead of the front wheels.

The W112 fintail was offered in the same wheelbase and, optionally, in a "L" version that was longer.

A friend of Mine,Chris,owns this site ands as you can see is rather fond of the W112 SEL.
http://www.300se.org/
The Lang ( Long) wheel base car is not very common but I had a W112 Lang here in Right hand drive which was one of 14 .They only built 14 rhd SELs and this one is in the process of being restored back to a decent roadworthy conditon.yes ,Truley!!

doesn't look so bad without the car on top.

My reference book 'Mercedes-Benz Production Models 1946-1975' gives a 108.3" wheelbase for the W111 Fintails and 106.3" for the W110.

Happy Motoring, Mark

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the SEL is 4" longer again,same as the W109 300sel .