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79 280 Ce Advise
hey kids....
total deisel dude here looking at a 79 280 CE with 198 on the clock. Prefer if it was a diesel but so far the deal looks sweet as hes willing to trade my BMW that ive been trying to say byby to for a while! Anyway.....any advise as far as what to look for and what to expect would be GREATLY APPRECIATED! cheers
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I see you're in Mesa. I'm in Phoenix. Just where is this vehicle located? I might just have to go steal oops I mean look it over for myself
As to what to look for. I'd say apart from the obvious fact that it's a gas motor instead of a diesel the body is identical to a 79 300CD so the only differences would be with regards to the engine. I'd want a compression check before anything else. If the motors in good shape they can last a very long time. And are great highway cruisers. - Peter.
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2021 Chevrolet Spark Formerly... 2000 GMC Sonoma 1981 240D 4spd stick. 347000 miles. Deceased Feb 14 2021 2002 Kia Rio. Worst crap on four wheels 1981 240D 4spd stick. 389000 miles. 1984 123 200 1979 116 280S 1972 Cadillac Sedan DeVille 1971 108 280S |
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If the motors in good shape they can last a very long time. And are great highway cruisers.
Well my OLD 603 engine is still in my yard so I'm thinking I can have that rebuilt and put it in the CE if it croaks~ that would be sweet if it fits!
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the 280 motor is generally considered to be as durable as the venerable 616 and 617 motors. in injected form. i would expect a little less life from one with a carburator. i have heard of them with 400k on them and never had the head off.
tom w
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The M110's are oil users and leakers. They need guides and seals every 100K or so, which is kind of a pain because of the large heavy cam box. They leak at the front seal, and between the cam box and the head.
It is worth pulling the cam cover off and inspecting the cams for wear. They are expensive and a lot of trouble to replace. The AC/heat controls can be a troublesome especially the earlier models with the servo.
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Chuck Taylor Falls Church VA '66 200, '66 230SL, '96 SL500. Sold: '81 380SL, '86 300E, '72 250C, '95 C220, 3 '84 280SL's '90 420SEL, '72 280SE, '73 280C, '78 280SE, '70 280SL, '77 450SL, '85 380SL, '87 560SL, '85 380SL, '72 350SL, '96 S500 Coupe |
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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC] ..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis. |
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The cams wear because people don't adjust the valve clearances or replace the worn adjustment nuts when required. It's easy to do with the special tool (about $40 if i remember) (much easier than a 617 engine at least)....there's a sort of friction-fit adjustment nut that you have to replace if the torque spec drops below (i think) 20 ft-lbs but that's all in the manual. I think the valve adjustment period is 15k miles?? Check timing chain stretch as well when you have the cover off. They do leak a bit of oil but nothing terrible, my 280SE with 140k (nothing internal replaced yet except valve cover seals) is greasy but doesn't drip. The oil filter canister on the bottom is annoying. |
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oh yeah. the cannister sucks.
and they are more seepers than leakers in my experience. but mine has only about 143k on it. it is euro though so it may have more in reality. tom w
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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC] ..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis. |
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I currently own two M110's and have previously had three. The leaks I have observed and fixed:
Cam cover Cam cover - head Stud for AC compressor Front seal Pinhole leak in front cover Rear seal In addition to adjustment issues, the cams have a problem with lubrication. That's why the later models had a reduced number of cam bearings - to increase the flow to the cam lobes. But regardless of the cause, it makes sense to check the lobes as part of a PPI.
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Chuck Taylor Falls Church VA '66 200, '66 230SL, '96 SL500. Sold: '81 380SL, '86 300E, '72 250C, '95 C220, 3 '84 280SL's '90 420SEL, '72 280SE, '73 280C, '78 280SE, '70 280SL, '77 450SL, '85 380SL, '87 560SL, '85 380SL, '72 350SL, '96 S500 Coupe |
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