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Old 02-01-2007, 11:30 PM
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I think my starter is on its way out!

for the last couple of days now, when I tried to start the car, it sounded like the starter was spining, but not actually connecting with anything. after 4 - 10 tries, it eventually kicks in, and starts up right away!

I know this is a horrible description, but not really sure how to explain it!

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Old 02-02-2007, 11:19 PM
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I don't mean to rain on your parade but there is another possibility. I have had the ring gear actually come loose on the flywheel and spin around.

Automatic or manual?
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Old 02-03-2007, 01:05 AM
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Or hopefully nothin immediately fatal if its still generally operative. Wintertime electric symptoms are always worst than in warm weather. Meanwhile starter replacement on the 114 aint easy, my opinion: DIY degree of difficulty at 7+ .I wrastled with one on my 280/8 nearly all day long. There's one bell housing bolt thats near impossible, needs creative use of 10mm allen socket and vise grips reachin with fingertips having zero room in the tranny tunnel. Some people suggest cutting a hole in the tunnel from inside the car.

Meanwhile consider an upgrade to ballsier starter motor for lightning fast starts, see if a new starter for 1975 115/300D is rated more powerful. I'll betcha it is. Lesser known fact: Bosch built starters at different power ratings, same as bosch alterntors amp output varies. And knowing MB, it's a cinch the 1975/76 w115 m617 diesel starter will bolt right in. With your 280Coupe bein a '72 then shoot the moon and soup it up with the most ass-kicking starter available, says me, and you will never regret it.
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Old 02-03-2007, 09:16 AM
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for the last couple of days now, when I tried to start the car, it sounded like the starter was spining, but not actually connecting with anything. after 4 - 10 tries, it eventually kicks in, and starts up right away!

I know this is a horrible description, but not really sure how to explain it!

(1972 280C)


Baker
The gear on the end of the starter shaft is where your problem lies, it has clutches inside, and they are slipping causing the noise/no start condition, you could replace this if you can locate it from your local parts supplier, it is called a "bendix" or "starter drive gear". It will be a lot cheaper to replace this rather than replacing the entire starter, but..... by the time remove the starter, you might want to replace the whole thing, so you won't have to deal with it again.
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