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Price it as if the engine is completely useless. The only way to play this.

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I get about twice as many MPG around town in my 300TD vs. my 280SEC.
But that's not a very accurate comparison. The 1984 280E I drove would get 23 mpg, and the 1984 300D I'm driving gets 26. Not that much of a difference. Hard to compare a 1969 gasser with a 1984 TD - kind of like comparing a 1991 SEC with an 2002 E320.
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But that's not a very accurate comparison. The 1984 280E I drove would get 23 mpg, and the 1984 300D I'm driving gets 26. Not that much of a difference. Hard to compare a 1969 gasser with a 1984 TD - kind of like comparing a 1991 SEC with an 2002 E320.

May not be that offbase since production of W111 stopped in 1971 and W123 started in 1976. Both are straight six overhead cam engines with MFI with a 4 speed automatic. Was your 23 mpg in town?
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Price it as if the engine is completely useless. The only way to play this.
Paul, thats probly good advice for practically any car sight unseen. Been burned a couple times on internet deals, haint we all? Especially one thats old lady driven where she coulda driven for years with existing mechanical probs going from bad to worst.

That said, square window wagons deserve respect as Classic MB's. Now lets imagine this 280TE with 4spd tranny hacked into it as part of the restoration. Would become probly the ultimate 100+ mph hotrod/sleeper, meanwhile the non-turbo 300TD is the ultimate slug even worst than 4spd 240D. The diesel/gasoline debate is moot.

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May not be that offbase since production of W111 stopped in 1971 and W123 started in 1976. Both are straight six overhead cam engines with MFI with a 4 speed automatic.
Denver, it would be more accurate to say 111's began in 1960 whereas 123's began in '76. Difference between the single and twincam inline 6 is like night'n day.
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Paul, thats probly good advice for practically any car sight unseen. Been burned a couple times on internet deals, haint we all? Especially one thats old lady driven where she coulda driven for years with existing mechanical probs going from bad to worst.

That said, square window wagons deserve respect as Classic MB's. Now lets imagine this 280TE with 4spd tranny hacked into it as part of the restoration. Would become probly the ultimate 100+ mph hotrod/sleeper, meanwhile the non-turbo 300TD is the ultimate slug even worst than 4spd 240D. The diesel/gasoline debate is moot.



Denver, it would be more accurate to say 111's began in 1960 whereas 123's began in '76. Difference between the single and twincam inline 6 is like night'n day.

I drove a 280E with a manual once and it seemed slower that my 300TD -maybe it was out of tune. I'd still rather have a 300TD if for no other reason than its durability and better MPG. If you could turbo the 280E that would be another matter.

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