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Prinz Eugen,
I know it will be a huge project to restore, but I'm glad you decided to take it on. Please keep us informed as to your progress. Ann
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Those kind of threads (Like Ron's thread about "Libby") are the lifeblood of forums like this, attracting all kind of users and attention to your ongoing saga. It is an uphill battle and absolutely worthy of its own thread!
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Thanks guys!
Al's and Tom's sites were very, very helpful in providing me with informations that I needed. I will host the pictures on that site, thanks and thanks for allowing me to open the "project topic". Right now I'm organizing to have the car picked up and delivered to the restoration company (about 400km away). Unfortunately I'll have to find a van for the engine and all the boxes and that will ad to the bill but I'm so excited about starting this project I feel like a kid . I have ordered the EPC and all manuals regarding the W109 models in hope of finding in them many vital informations. I wanted to ask if there is any way of knowing all the equipment, color codes etc. of the car from the VIN number (like from the VIN decoder for the newer cars?). I would like to know the optionals it had installed, the color codes, type of interior (it doesn't look like leather, maybe MB tex?) but don't know how or where to ask for this kind of information. One other thing, is it difficult to find (I have a feeling that it is) the missing A/C? As I have read, the W109s had the Behr A/C while others had the Thermo King but a quick Google search provided no information. Greetings, |
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For the compressor, evaporator, dryer and hoses; you should be able to buy new. The compressor does not cost a lot and is this will guarantee that you don't get a leaky system.
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Great news Al and thanks for the information!
My father works in Galveston so he could arrange something regarding it (if the A/C system is available for sale). Regarding the other stuff, yes, you're right. I found all of the other parts on DBDepot so I'll order them new (better than trying to fix the old, rotten parts). BTW, do you know what brand is it? Behr ot TK? Best regards, |
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Good luck with the restoration. I look forward to following it's progress. - Peter.
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I wonder if some of the more difficult to find parts, like wiring harnesses, new rubber parts, etc - might also be available from Mercedes?
Al mentioned my wiring harness in a previous post, but it didn't come from a *dealership, it came from Germany via the Classic Center in So Cal. And its notan NOS harness that had been sitting on shelf for 30+ years, it was clearly newly manufactured. I mention this because I was talking to someone with a late 50s MB at a car show a few weeks ago who'd ordered a fuse box and some rubber parts from the Classic Center. He said that the fuse box he got looked exactly right, but it wasn't Bakelight, it was some other kind of hopefully more durable plastic. The rubber parts all had that pliability like new (like the rubber connectors on my fuel injection wiring harness). We also both noted that all the parts were tagged with bar code stickers, inside the packaging and all the packaging was fresh and modern as well. So who runs the European branch of the Classic Center? Might be worth asking Tom Hanson. Ann *Al - the dealership 1) couldn't have found that harness if it had been on the shelf! 2) Doesn't give a MBCA discount + !
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Mercedes will support most cars for 40 years. Providing that there is enough demand, they will make another production run of an out of stock product. When I lived in London, I never had problems getting parts from a dealer for my 71 250CE. I suspect that as this 3.5 is a Euro car, Prinz will have good success as getting parts from Mercedes Benz. 1) MB Dealerships will order parts from Germany if they are not available here. The last time I contacted RBM for a Mercedes Benz 6.9 timing chain tensioner, they told me that they would have to order it from there. A friend just ordered Euro W126 headlamp wash wiper arms and the local dealer in Dallas which also had to come from Germany. 2) Dealers in Atlanta may not give MBCA discounts (I was disappointed to find that out). Park Place Motorcars in Dallas will sell parts at wholesale price to MBCA members and do ship. They are competitive with some of the after market suppliers that you find on the web.
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This would be a much needed resource, no doubt...
http://www.detali.ru/cat/oem_mb1.asp?TP=1&F=109056&VIN= If the user/viewer is not familiar with the Russian site, a simple guide - 1. Locate the section you wish to browse 2. When that page has loaded, typically, an illustrated parts breakdown (IPB) will appear. These are the same images that would have been included in the old, black cover booklets that would have been in the glovebox when the car was delivered new. The idea being, that you, as the owner, would flip to a page for a part needed, ID the part by the number next to it, call the dealer and after giving some basic data on the car (Chassis number, Engine number - VIN or ID number, really), you would say, "In group number...XX, I am in need of item/part...XX." The dealer locates the part in the corresponding microfiche and carries out the sale. 3. Same deal here. The downside is, that even though the vintage drawings are works of art in and of themselves (and highly accurate renditions of the parts themselves), you've really got to squint your eyes sometimes to make out the item number located adjacent to a part. The scanning of the images was pretty lo-resolution. When you find a part in question, note the number. Now scroll toward the bottom of the page, where you will find a table. Locate the same item number in the column to the left. Follow the number to the column just to the right and you will find the DBAG part number - being careful to make note of any footnotes where details about production changes are often provided. 4. A note about loading pages. Take the electrical system of this 109.056 300SEL 3.5 for instance - "GROUP 82." If you click on that link, you will see that on the next page, an entire array of items are listed. This is pretty typical on this Russian site. You have to scroll to the bottom of that list and click on the link that FOLLOWS the text in Russian as everything above that text is located on separate microfiche cards and I have come to believe that the owners of the site have never made those links active. Click on one of the "above" links and you'll see what I mean. At any rate, if you always bear in mind to scroll to the bottom first, you will be taken directly to the relevant page. It is interesting however, to read through some of the "above" links just to see what sort of special equipment was available - such as the siren light setup mentioned earlier in this thread. It appears that the siren/light assembly was offered. Heck, if you could find the full set of fiches, you could get the numbers for the siren and light assembly too. I think Phil (Fastlane) once said he has access to those oddball fiches. Hope that all made some sense. Last edited by Adenauer; 10-30-2007 at 10:22 PM. |
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While not intending to insult the sponsors etc here I have found It's far easier to access the Niemoller site and you also get up to date pricing and availability. I buy from Tom Hanson on a regular basis but Niemoller is where I go when looking for better prices. Same parts -different store..
http://www.niemoeller.de/englisch/index.html |
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..Dobro Dosli ! Prince Eugen!. I have spent a lot of time under W109's and all are worth money to me. I note your "new " 3.5 engine doesn't have ther corerect sump.It's possibly a 280 SE 3.5 engine because it doesn't have the compressor mount. i have a complete sump compressor mount special radiator hose arrangement here if you ever need one. Don't listen to Americans when thet talk of Rust it takes a European to see the value in a Rusty car.
Your car will look like this once you get to grips with the body work... ' |
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That's why I like Ron, he's not shy about taking on a big job.
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Ha ha.. Al those are Art's and his son in laws 6.3's . Same car ,bigger engines.
You have this to look forward too, I think, with your next project Merc. I am sure I have seen Prince Eugens car or it's sister when I was in that part of the world after the fall of the Soviet Union. A black one came past us ...looking very menacing and despite it's age it was obviously a 'party car'. |
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Ron
My 6.3 is solid! It's the suspension and engine that I worry about!
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