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Help! Transmission Questions
I have a 73 280C that has had a cold slow to go into reverse problem for years. Once the trans. (W4B 025) warms up, all is well. I got a new reverse piston and seal from an MB parts place but need to know which side of the transmission driver or passenger) this piston is located. There are two cans (covers) about the same size on either side of the trans. and it looks like the reverse band adjustment is on the passenger side. This would lead me to believe that the "band apply" piston is on the driver's side, but I don't want to tear into without knowing for sure. I also need to know how to remove the outer can (cover), and anything else that may be pertinent to doing this job. Thanks in advance for the help.
Last edited by mbbuff; 03-12-2009 at 04:52 PM. |
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Hello MBbuff,
This is often caused by the lock nut on the reverse band coming loose and the adjustment backing out. Check this first. Yes it is located on the passenger's side. Anyway, the adjustment should be turned in until snug then back it off 1 3/4 turns. Replacing the pistons with the trans in the car is dificult and not usually the problem. Hopefully you will not need to go this far.
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I agree, the reverse band adjustment seems to cure many, many of these issues.
If you do find you need to replace the piston, maybe this will help (assume this is a 722.1xx?): http://www.jie.com/Mercedes/4_bolt_pan.htm Rick
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rs899 and ja17, thanks for the info. Actually I am told it is a W4B 025 trans., but I'll check the ID plate now that I have your info. I will check the band adjustment first. I initially didn't think it was the band, as I can rev. it when it's cold and it will fall into reverse. Then when everything is warmed up it works great. I thought maybe it was a hardened seal. Also, I recently changed the fluid, which I do religiously, and it seemed to work a little better.
Last edited by mbbuff; 03-13-2009 at 11:59 AM. |
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Got it fixed. It was the reverse servo piston seal that was split and hardened. All works good now. Thanks for everyone's help.
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