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Old 06-01-2009, 09:08 AM
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280S AT question

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does anyone here knows how to adjust the band clutch for 280S AT (722.102) 'box?, where's that adjuster for band clutch is located. thanks guys!

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Old 06-02-2009, 07:34 PM
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hi guys!

does anyone here knows how to adjust the band clutch for 280S AT (722.102) 'box?, where's that adjuster for band clutch is located. thanks guys!
additional info; the 280S is euro W116 with 722.102 AT 'box.
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Old 06-03-2009, 02:54 AM
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If you are getting a "Flare" between shifts, you need to increase pump pressure, by shortening the control rod. Try a half turn at a time. The downside is the shift points will occur at a greater MPH.

Caveat: This is not the correct way to solve the problem; but it worked for me.
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Old 06-04-2009, 04:36 AM
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If you are getting a "Flare" between shifts, you need to increase pump pressure, by shortening the control rod. Try a half turn at a time. The downside is the shift points will occur at a greater MPH.

Caveat: This is not the correct way to solve the problem; but it worked for me.
I used to drive drive MT cars all the time but I'm new to this AT troubleshooting (my apologies, really). What do you mean by "flaring"?
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Old 06-04-2009, 08:27 AM
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flaring is when the motor revs between shifts, almost like its in N for a second.
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flaring is when the motor revs between shifts, almost like its in N for a second.
ah...., the car doesn't flare, it shifts smoothly,in position D, it shifts bit early around 40 KMH (shift points at 51 KMH), then earlier at the end of 2nd speed at 70 (shift point at 90) then earlier again at end of 3rd speed at 98 but can't reach 4th unless reaches at 130 KMH shift point. Our roads here are limited to 100 KMH. The car had no tachometer,in the speedo, I find 3 shift points (52,90 and 142 KMH), according to www.w116.org, all six cylinder models equipped with 4-speed ATs, all V8's had 3-speed ATs.

If the car had 4-speed AT, then the speedo should have 4 shift points right?
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Old 06-04-2009, 11:08 PM
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Hello,

If the car is a four speed automatic it should shift three times. You can change the shift points by lengthening or shortening the linkage rod going back to the transmission from the engine accelerator linkage. The shift marks on the speedometer are the maximum speeds in each gear.
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Old 06-08-2009, 10:28 AM
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A week ago, I noticed that the car lacked power during acceleration I ruled out carburator since the Solex 4A1's accelerator pump worked excellent, I installed new points and gapped to specs (since I don't have a dwell meter) and #236 condenser since the old condenser was a #235, that's for electronic ignition condenser! checked the timing and adjust the distributor by listening and givng some gas to detect hesitation and it was also excellent.The car is running fine but still lacked power, now, there's 1 more thing relates this problem: valve clearance!

I took the cover off and got a feeler gauge to check all clearances and I found out that all valves had no clearances! all were tight! then I have to perform the valve clearance ASAP, I have to borrow the HAZET valve clearance tool(for M110, M115) and HAZET 27 mm deep socket from my dad's mechanic friend, regular 27 mm deep sockets won't get in the crank bolts b/c it's lips were thicker compared to HAZET ones. With these tools, I set intake .15 mm and exhaust .25 mm and I was able to finish the job in 30 minutes despite the hot weather outside and hot,tight and dark garage and I'm sweating a lot ! but I drink GATORADE of course. I'll try running the car tomorrow.


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