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Old 10-21-2010, 06:36 AM
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It got sold on me.
There's your proof...it was 78K
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Old 10-21-2010, 09:28 AM
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It got sold on me.
Nah, it had 378000 on it, the engine was shot, the tranny only had two gears, the windows were frozen in place, the windscreen seals were completely dry-rotted and it had a family of meerkats living in the interior. There, don't you feel better now that you didn't fall for the fake mileage game.

You REALLY didn't want the 220D. Acceleration described as "glacial" is bragging. I used to turn the A/C on mine and use it as a parking brake.

My first Benz was a '73 220D. I drove that puppy for 8 years and passed it onto my son who drove it for two more until someone decided they wanted to park an Acura in the trunk. Dang thing wouldn't die, wouldn't really live either.
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Old 10-21-2010, 09:38 AM
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My first Benz was a '73 220D. I drove that puppy for 8 years and passed it onto my son who drove it for two more until someone decided they wanted to park an Acura in the trunk. Dang thing wouldn't die, wouldn't really live either.
Does the Acura option add or take away value?
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Old 10-21-2010, 01:45 PM
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It got sold on me. The seller was impossible to contact, now he has deleted the listing and doesn't return email. Oh well, I'll keep looking. Thanks for the help.
Not necessarily. When a seller pulls an ad, sometimes it is because they have learned that their item for sale is far more valuable than they originally thought it was, and their ad will return with a much higher price. Or they have discovered they need to raise the price to make negotiations easier on their end. They may even retreat to ebay to maximize the return. Especially if their phone was ringing off the hook, they know they may have a hot item.

I have on numerous occasions raised the price when I thought it would help me get more dollars for an item. I successfully did it on my vintage 76 Honda M/C, I did it on a 65 Chevy wagon, a '71 Pontiac Trans Am, and I've even done it on a home.

If a seller's goal is to get as much as they can out of an item, versus moving it quickly, then changing the price of an item or taking it off the market briefly, can reset the price of an item in any potential buyer's mind.
When you come upon a repeat interested buyer, that sees you raised the price - this plays havoc with their mind. They cannot get the old lower price out of their minds. When a buyer was trying to chisel a few thousand dollars on my home I had for sale and I had negotiated down in orice twice - they said they could not pay it. I told them I was happy they weren't interested, because I was raising the price by $27K the next day. I received a call within 20 minutes that they would buy the home, dropping ALL contingencies, if I would still sell at the negotiated price. I did, but I regret being played that way by them, when I really wanted to raise the price by $27K as I said I was going to. I kind of wish I still owned that home.....

Sometimes a seller will choose to not do business with certain potential buyers if they feel the buyer is trying to chisel or hemming and hawing with them, and they don't want to fool with someone balking or trying to steal the item. That may be why he won't communicate with you - I don't know.

You gave no asking price, even after I asked what the asking price was, so I am operating in the dark on this, but the price may have been low enough that it got scooped-up while you were mulling it over. If this was a case of hemming and hawing on your part when presented with good merchandise at a good price, then you lost out.

That's happened to all of us - sometimes for the best, by the way. We find something we like better later on - that's what happened when I bought my last diesel motorcoach. I found a terrific coach that I didn't like because it had dual leather sofa's versus what I wanted, one sofa, and two captain's chairs / table combination. I later found the same brand coach, with the same diesel power, with half the miles with the floorplan that I really wanted a few weeks later.

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Old 10-21-2010, 02:01 PM
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There's your proof...it was 78K
Keep looking....
When you don't move or make an offer or put down an agreed to written deposit on something to try to procure it quickly, you can get scooped by another buyer in a matter of minutes or hours.

I saw the perfect priced 2006 E320 CDI for me on-line with an accompanying stellar Carfax linked in on-line on a Saturday morning three months ago.

I have an 'Alert' set-up on-line, so it was a fresh alert. The mega-dealer Landers of Arkansas, was 300 miles from me in Little Rock, AR. I thought about it for an hour, and called the dealership at mid-afternoon. I never got connected/called back that afternoon.

I mulled over driving to the dealership to be there Mon. first thing. I didn't, but did get connected to a sales rep. by late morning Mon. by phone. He found that the car that was being loaded on a transport for New Jersey that very day, and that money had been called in from NJ Saturday. It went for asking - which was several thousand below market pricing. It had super low miles on it - less than 20K, which is what I am looking for.

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Old 10-21-2010, 06:42 PM
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When you don't move or make an offer or put down an agreed to written deposit on something to try to procure it quickly, you can get scooped by another buyer in a matter of minutes or hours.
The problem in this instance wasn't inaction on my end. I was ready to go at the drop of a hat. His phone was never answered, emails only returned once, he called me once and was very cordial, just said he was real busy. I emailed and called three or four more times to set up a visit, and never got a response. I'll keep an eye out, maybe he will advertise it again.
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Old 10-21-2010, 06:54 PM
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The problem in this instance wasn't inaction on my end. I was ready to go at the drop of a hat. His phone was never answered, emails only returned once, he called me once and was very cordial, just said he was real busy. I emailed and called three or four more times to set up a visit, and never got a response. I'll keep an eye out, maybe he will advertise it again.
I see. Certainly you have no information to go by, since the guy and you never hooked-up. I see better now. Sorry.

Did the car at least have an asking price??
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Old 10-21-2010, 08:51 PM
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That's also true, even if it was accurate, for a car to have 80000 miles over 40 years means that only been driven 2000 miles per year which his highly unlikely, or being a diesel. It was driven 80,000 miles in 10 years or less and then laid up which is really bad.

With any old car, condition trumps mileage unless you plan to stick it in a museum. A guy here in Dallas bought a 67 Lincoln with less then 20,000 miles. The first thing that he had to do is pull the heads off because the valves were stuck. I suspect that if he does not sell it soon, he'll be dumping some serious cash into that car.
I was the one who worked on that Lincoln for its owner. It was a 1966 Lincoln Continental with about 4600 miles. It had sat from about 1970 to the present. It developed a problem typical of MEL engines that sit for extended time; that is sticking valves. The car had stuck valves, bent pushrods, and a damaged valve lifter despite its low mileage and near mint condition. The A/C compressor was also no good after all these years and required replacement. The exhaust system had to be replaced due to severe rust. Most everything else appears to be in working condition, but I suspect the rubber parts will soon fail if the car is driven very much. I see this kind of thing all the time at the dealer as well. Low mileage older cars with dry rotted original tires, oil leaks, rotten exhaust systems and other problems.

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