I need to replace both front and rear windshields in my 1969 w115 - I see URO Parts brand rubber seals at PeachParts for great price, looking for feedback from other as to quality and fit. I know some say the aftermarket seals can be bad, but not sure what brand are the "bad" ones.


Thanks for your feedback.

Chris

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1969
Model 220 gasoline
Chassis: W115.010

I've installed dozens without issue. but, there are others who swear they are "no good".

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1968 230S Automatic, Elfenbein
1975 O309D Executive Westfalia Camper Bus, Blau/ Weiss
1972 280SEL 4,5 Dunkelrot
1966 VW Type 34 "Grosser" Karmann-Ghia
1963 VW 1500 Variant Pearlweiss
1969 VW Variant Automatic, Perugruen
1971 VW Squareback Automatic, Clementine Orange
2001 E320 4Matic Wagon- Our belated welcome to the 21st century! Polar White
1973 280SEL 4,5 Sliding Roof "The Bomb", Dunkelblau.

Replaced Vanagon front and a T2 camper front with them. No problems to report.
I get rubber seals and gaskets from WoldPac and they are in a URO bag. Never had a bad one so far.

Just installed a 126 a/c manifold assembly from URO. Good product...fitted right up.


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Thanks for the feedback, I think I will give them a try - I just can't afford the MB Brand right now - this is a project car on the cheap!


Chris

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1969
Model 220 gasoline
Chassis: W115.010

Chris-
Will you report back after they are installed? I am in the same boat, and would definitely prefer to save some $.

Also, are you doing the work, or having a shop do it for you? I had heard it is hard to find people comfy with these older windows, but I am not about to tackle this project myself.

Good luck.

I am doing it myself. I did a VW Squareback myself, first time out, windshield, rear window and side windows - was not that difficult, same technique, same type of seal design. The tricky part is getting the old trim pieces out and back into the new seal BEFORE you place the windshield back. I need to replace my headliner and to do that, you really need to pull the window and the seal and replace as the headliner is tucked under the seal.

Will let you know how it goes.

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1969
Model 220 gasoline
Chassis: W115.010

So how did it go?

I just received my URO W108 F&R Windshield and Trunk Seal kit. I have a VW background and I've done numerous window seal installs on bugs, buses and squarebacks. Are there any tricks to the trim that goes on the rubber or is it the same as a VW? i.e. Install the rubber to the glass, then the trim to the rubber, then the entire assembly to the car?

I usually use a cord stuffed into the lip of the seal, then have a helper hold the glass in place and put pressure opposite where I am pulling out the cord to get the seal lip over the metal window frame. Sound about right?

I'm thinking that I should wait till it's a little warmer because these seals are super thick compared to VW seals...

A couple tricks: Put the glass in the seal, then the trim. Don't be surprised if the trim got a little bent out of shape when you removed it. Hold in the trim with painter's tape.

Install the seal/ glass/ trim assembly using electrical wire instead of a cord- the insulation on the wire is more forgiving. A good shot of dish soap all around the seal groove before install is like the spoon full of sugar that helps the medicine go down.

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1968 230S Automatic, Elfenbein
1975 O309D Executive Westfalia Camper Bus, Blau/ Weiss
1972 280SEL 4,5 Dunkelrot
1966 VW Type 34 "Grosser" Karmann-Ghia
1963 VW 1500 Variant Pearlweiss
1969 VW Variant Automatic, Perugruen
1971 VW Squareback Automatic, Clementine Orange
2001 E320 4Matic Wagon- Our belated welcome to the 21st century! Polar White
1973 280SEL 4,5 Sliding Roof "The Bomb", Dunkelblau.

I tried URO and Febi seals on a W111. Both were junk! I could not get the assembly to fit no matter how hard I tried. Then I bought ones from the dealer. The OEM rubber was softer and thinner than the URO and Febi ones. Guess what? The assembly popped in and seated properly on the FIRST TRY! The trim didn't even try to pop out, rather it got sucked in tight as the glass seated. The difference was night and day.

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1967 W110 Universal Wagon, Euro, Turbo Diesel, Tail Fins, 4 Speed Manual Column Shift, A/C
1980 W116 300SD Turbo Diesel, DB479 Walnut Brown, Sunroof, Highly Optioned, 350,000+ Miles

Besides the aftermarket rubber being too thick and hard, the upper corners weren't even molded and the trim groove didn't have a locking lip to hold the trim in place. All the aftermarket rubber did was pop out of shape and the trim wouldn't stay in, while the OEM rubber fit like a glove and popped right in while sucking in the trim tightly.

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1967 W110 Universal Wagon, Euro, Turbo Diesel, Tail Fins, 4 Speed Manual Column Shift, A/C
1980 W116 300SD Turbo Diesel, DB479 Walnut Brown, Sunroof, Highly Optioned, 350,000+ Miles

Two eighty - I have new, in the bag URO rear window seal waiting to go in. I have new headliner material as well since I can't replace the seal now and the much needed headliner later. I have heard good and bad on the UROs, perhaps the issues that are negative are only on certain models and windshields - some people have had goo installs. I too have done VWs without issue. I am about ready to do mine, but the weather in AZ is very cold this month too.

Squiggles has me scared for sure, I would hate to get myself into a situation where I have to go without a rear window because I just can't get the URO to fit, yet I am game to give it a try. I find it hard to believe that all URO seals are garbage - so many distributors carry and sell them.


I sure appreciate Squiggles's feedback, and I believe he had a nightmare for sure. Wish I could get more feed back on our specific models/window seals.

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1969
Model 220 gasoline
Chassis: W115.010

I took a couple of pictures for reference, you are right- the upper corners are not molded. I was led to believe that these seals accepted the trim but there is a groove for the trim at the bottom only. Do the OE seals have the groove all around? The URO front windshield seal does seem to have it all the way around.

I have to post the pics on a separate post because they're on my phone.

Yeah squiggles feedback is scary but I'm going for it anyway, it may be no worse than some crappy vw seals which I am used to. I have no doubt that the OEM seals are the best. I just hope that the URO seals will work well enough to stop the leaks for a few years. If it's impossible to get them in then I'll report back.

These seals being sold everywhere isn't really an indicator of the level of quality. I find that "you get what you pay for" generally holds true. You're a VW guy so You must be familiar with EMPI. It is sold EVERYWHERE and a lot of it is poor quality. I am hoping that what I paid for in this instance is good enough though.

My headliner pulled out of the back seal when the seal shrank from the sun. I want to try to fix it when i put my new seal in because it is otherwise in decent condition.

URO w108 rear windshield seal

My URO seal for my 69 220 is molded for the bottom corners, but not the top, but the stock seal in there now does not appear to be a molded corner either. The rubber of my URP is very pliable. I am lucky that the Rear Window seal does have the track for both the lower, sides and top outside trim - that's good.
I realize the quality may not be up to stock regardless as to how many are sold, but I am with you, if it stops the leak and it will fit the car to do the job I am happy. I am looking for function at a reasonable price.

I guess I need to get going with the new headliner.

Chris

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1969
Model 220 gasoline
Chassis: W115.010