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WTB or Borrow Pagoda bellhousing
I'm looking to buy or borrow a w113 bellhousing for a swap comparison. I will gladly pay deposit for it as I plan on measuring it for a swap kit. The part number I'm looking for is 1112502105, hopefully it would have all clutch fork/mechanism with.
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Those engines, as well as the M110, M130, M114, M180, M115, and possibly some others of earlier date, are equipped with an intermediate plate which bolts to the block and which in turn provides a circular register of approx. 12 5/8 in. diameter for either the clutch housing or the converter housing. The bolt pattern of clutch/converter housing-to-intermediate plate is the same for all of the above engines when used with G 76/18, G76/27, 716.0, and 716.1 manual transmissions, and 722.1 and 722.2 automatic transmissions. In the event that the clutch/converter housings used in the W113 chassis are unique to that chassis, I would think that the uniqueness is a matter of their length rather than the bolt pattern. |
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Ahh, I see. Thank you for the info. I am still playing with the 617 /616. I was thinking of using the intermediate plate also, there are several things that interfere so I wanted to have one in had to try out. Its starting to seem that I'd spend it on a bell housing or a hydraulic release bearing to make what I have work, no money will be saved on this aspect of the project. Either way, once I'm done with what I'm doing and it works, I will post specs / drawings on here for everyone.
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Regarding the possible combination of a W113 and an OM61x, one is compelled to ask why you would condemn a jumper to drayage? |
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It is hard to explain other than it seems to be a suitable option for my endeavor. Don't get me wrong, I'm not putting a diesel in a Pagoda. With what you mentioned about the other engines, I might try them out as they are more readily available, especially automatic gear boxes w/ detachable bell housings. I'm thinking maybe a w116 diesel auto trans bell housing. In the hopes of keeping costs down, I'm open to substitutes.
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It may be useful for you to keep in mind that there is no such thing as a "W116 bell housing", any more than there is a "W113 bell housing". "Bell housings" whether for a clutch or a converter are associated with power trains, i.e., engines and transmissions, rather than chassis. Any combination of engine and transmission (and the intervening housing) can be, and was, found in a number of different chassis. So in your quest for parts, for whatever purpose you may have in mind, it will probably help to search for engine and transmission components, rather than for chassis components. |
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I do understand but most people advertise what the parts they have are coming off or came from. Usually people who know the part number they are dealing with are asking a premium. I don't want to pay premium prices if I can avoid it.
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