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Euro cams & ecu change in a 450 slc
Gentlemen I found a euro 1976 450 SE @ the local pick n pull. It is bad rusty,but I was able to get the window switches & hazard switch & they work. I've got a pair of 225 hp euro cams & was hoping the ecu out of the euro 450se would make this work. By the way the headlights are complete & not broken but look rusty. The bumpers look o k , but again rusty. I am going to run a compression test. The odometer reads 37 K & other than it being a "Fred Flintstone" car it is complete & clean.
Any sound advice on the possibilites of this working or any other parts improve the performance of my 1980 450 SLC is apreciated. Thanks Sincerely Rev. Buzz |
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If you can obtain an ECU from the subject 450 SE, let us know the part no.
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I assume both car use K-Jetronic injection? If so, you might want to get the fuel distributor and control pressure regulator from the donor car too, then it will be all Euro spec. I do not know which ones of those would be different from the US version, but my guess would be that all of them would be different.
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Cam codes
Hi Rev,
Did the doner cams come from a hydraulic cam engine? Insure you get the matching rockers. What is the code from the back of the cams? It will be something like 00/01 or 06/07.
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A K-Jetronic hasn't the ECU.
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Ah, forgot about an US-ver. with emission control and it's ECU.
But euro 450 with 217 PS/225 PS K-Jet engine do not need any ECU. And only euro 450 SE with D-Jet have ECU. |
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IIRC, 73-75 are D-Jet with mechanical rocker studs. 76+ are K-Jet with hydraulic rocker studs. It looks like, in your profile, you have a K-Jet so not an issue there. NO ECU swap should be needed since there is none, but you'd want to grab the entire matching head assembly, it's almost surely a higher compression head and the heads to match those cams and get the most power are your best bet.
If it has EFI it's actually a 75 with D-Jet and you can swap the heads and cams still but may need to make other modifications to get your K-Jet setup to work, unless you want to swap yours to D-Jet or Megasquirt it.
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The other thing to consider is that the US 450 motor has an 8:1 compression ratio vs close to 9:1 for the Euro version. This may affect the way the camshafts work. On a K-jet, it may increase backflow at lower rev which may mess up with the air sensor plate. On a D-jet the ECU may have a hard time having the engine run right unless you go for a programmable system like Megasquirt.
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I upped the compression on my 4.5 with 3.5 heads. The ECU wasn't the issue (I had a 3.5 one I could have used but did not). I used the 3.5 cams but in hindsight I'd probably stick to the 52/53 4.5 cams. I suggested the heads for the compression boost to match the cams
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