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Old 11-20-2014, 02:21 AM
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What Year is this 280 C

Having a Problem identifying the year of this Mercedes and don't have the Vin
They say it is a 1970 280 C
is it a Euro looks like it may be .
what do you guys think

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Old 11-20-2014, 09:02 AM
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If it is a 280C then it was produced between 1973 and 1976. There should be a VIN on it somewhere to help you narrow it down a bit more.
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Old 11-20-2014, 10:17 AM
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That's what I was thinking also ? perhaps they have the wrong year on the information
What should the first 6 # of the Vin be ? and what is that model called ?
I see on the net some from 1972 ( see photo from net ) on up called a 114
SO should the Vin start with 114 then ?
does the car look like a Euro Model do you think ?
Photo of a 250 C
but can't find much info on the so called 280 C ?
think your right it should be from 73 to 76 unless the euro models came at a earlier year ? is this also possible .
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Old 11-20-2014, 10:31 AM
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W114/115 started in 1968. See Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W114

I had a 280C named Goldie Locks:
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My best guess is it's a US-spec 250C that someone put the wrong badge on. The wheels are wrong. You need pictures of the interior and engine to know more, or better yet, the VIN. If it starts with 114023 it's a 250C and if it starts with 114073 it's a 280C.
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Old 11-20-2014, 10:39 AM
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More information about the variations of the 280C and the 250C (with a 2.8 litre engine!) is available here =>

Kategorie:W114/W115/en

(other model types listed here => Tech spec data)

I hope this confusing data helps!!!!
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Thanks everyone :
Called the Guy and got somewhat misleading info sort of said he could not remember the year and i believe him .
So Called DMV with the License Number and the Name .
and discovered the Car Year is a 1973
Last registered in Jan 16 th 2,000
" Not Registered non Operative :" so fines are due
Fines Due : $837 + Registration Fee's for current 1 year License .
DMV well give you this information if you have the correct owners name and it is a match with their records. You also need the License Number or vin Number
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Wait, I'm confused, what are the fines for? Are you saying your state fines you for parking a car and not renewing the registration?
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So Called DMV with the License Number and the Name .
and discovered the Car Year is a 1973
Last registered in Jan 16 th 2,000
" Not Registered non Operative :" so fines are due
Fines Due : $837 + Registration Fee's for current 1 year License .
DMV well give you this information if you have the correct owners name and it is a match with their records. You also need the License Number or vin Number
I'm _guessing_ you are talking California DMV and not NV DMV. DMV in California is interesting. They will _comfirm_ just about anything. If you know the year, make, and either VIN or License they will tell you when last registered and how much fees are due but they will not (or are not supposed to) provide any other information. Sometimes it depends on who answers the phone. I have called with a license, year, and make and been off by a year and they wouldn't tell me until I guessed the correct year. They will confirm an owners name but not provide an owners name.

So you are looking at $837 and a car that hasn't (probably) been driven for 14 years... Has it been stored indoors? If not, I would run away from it.
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Wait, I'm confused, what are the fines for? Are you saying your state fines you for parking a car and not renewing the registration?
In California you can register a car "Non-operational" for $15 per year or register it "operational" for whatever the real registration is per year. If it's non-op it isn't legal to have it on public roads, even towing if the wheels are on the ground. It used to be that vehicles fell off the DMV records after 6 years, so if it had been enough years there were no back fees.

If the owner didn't register it "operational" or "non-operational" but just let it expire, then to register it IN CALIFORNIA you need to pay every year of back registration plus fees for being late. In the case of this car, $856 (or whatever it is) is VERY low for a car that is 14 years late. That is because the registration fee on the car was probably quite low when owner stopped paying it. So it's 14 x whatever he was supposed to pay plus fees. NEW registration cost will be based on a percentage of "value" as determined by the purchase price.

It is very unusual for a car this far back to have fees that low.

There are two ways around the back fees:

1) title the car in another state
2) if a dismantler buys the car it will get a salvage title (even if there is no damage to the car) and all the back fees get wiped away.

That's how CA DMV works....
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Just to further babble a bit about CA DMV the place where people REALLY get screwed is when they go to tow yard auctions (in Los Angeles operated by OPGLA.org) and buy a car that has been towed. If you have a car that is 5 years old the registration per year is going to be WAY higher than a car that is 30 years old. So it is very common for the back fees on a car at a police auction to be WAY higher than the value of the car or the selling price. In this case, smart buyers avoid the car and a dismantler will buy the car for $500 and scrap it or sell it with a (now) salvage title. Buyers who are making a big mistake will buy a car and try to register it and then find out what it will cost and they lose.
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Wait, I'm confused, what are the fines for? Are you saying your state fines you for parking a car and not renewing the registration?
Hello Scooter and Tomguy :
Fact is I know a lot about California DMV and the ways to do with this and that .
CALIFORNIA :
(1) To Register a Car / Truck Non Operative the Fee is $20 and is a one time fee . You well receive a letter each year asking if you want to regerster the car now or continue the Non operative status . If you continue you don't have to do anything like reply to the letter or such , It well just continue .
(2) So is a huge advantage to register the car non operative rather then do nothing .
(3) ways through the Maze >> now most DMV Operatives / Employes well not tell you this because they don't know this But in fact >>>
If you do it right do this .
(3a) When you Buy the Car " bring with you 2 or 3 Statement of Facts forms "
from CA. DMV (3b) Fill them out stating that the Car has not been operated and in storage since a Date " before the last Reregistration " expired .
(3c) Have The Seller sign this form and make sure Its dated , the current date as well as the dates of storage , non operative Status .
(3d) If You really feeling bold ask the seller to sign this Statement in front of a CA Notary . Now if the Seller is Married or living with someone else who knows of this have them also fill out the same form with dates and sign it also .
(3e) If You the Buyer also know of this as fact the car sat all that time then you can fill out the form also .
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(4) take the forms to DMV and find out the total Cost of the current registration due for the upcoming year ( left ) of License fees as well as transfer fees and any other fees . However not with any Penalty Fees involved . Then have DMV submit all the Fees - Penalty Fees to Sacramento along with the statement of Facts forms , 2 should do it .
and pray lol . Many times Sacramento well approve this registration without any Penalty Fees . You may also include that the car is has historical Value to you perhaps a Car like your father had or something like that but that with the Penalty Fees simply that its beyond your means as they are so hi.
Volunteer to take the car into a brake and light inspection or any inspection that they might like you to do ( they wont ask you to do this )
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(5) Now if the Car has any Tickets after the date the prior registration expired then this well not work as they well be on the DMV Computer
and the statements of fact well not be fact anymore humm a lie .

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Other tricky things :
if your friendly at DMV and perhaps Know someone you can do many things. Remember 95% of DMV workers don't know much
For example if a Car is on Non Opp Status when you buy it you can do this.
Do A "Title Only Transfer on the car" ( not a license registration )
at that same time Transfer the Non Opp Status from the seller to you the buyer . Their is no fee for this it is free to transfer that status . If the worker hands you a form to fill out for Non Opp ask to speak to a manger because thee worker is trying to set you up for a $20 fee when their is no fee for this .

Why do this ? perhaps the car need work and no need to register it yet

Much Better ; with a title only transfer if the DMV worker fills out the form what I call the right way , then this well happen .
on the birthday date for the registration to be registered ( Licensed now in your name with your title only transfer ) a Letter well come to your address offering you to register the car . However when your lucky that letter well not be asking for something , a Smog Certificate . well just say pay the registration fee . you can do it by mail or at DMV .

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You know way more than I know about it - never heard of the statement of fact approach but it makes sense and sounds good IF you have a cooperative seller...
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Wow. That's a lot of... Stuff. Guess I'm glad PA isn't like that. I've had a few cases where I've had my cars sitting and the registrations expired, and I renewed them months, and in the case of my old MB, YEARS later with no penalties like that.
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If it is a 280C then it was produced between 1973 and 1976. There should be a VIN on it somewhere to help you narrow it down a bit more.
I've owned a 72 280C. This one would be 73 or older as a 74 had the bigger bumpers if it's a US car (which it looks to be).

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