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1972 MERCEDES 280 SE W108 ENGINE LOOSE POWER AND SHUTS OFF AFTER 15 MINS
Hi Guys
I have 1972 Mercedes 280 SE 6 cylinder w108. I am having issues with the engine loosing power after running 15 minutes and finally shuts itself off. I have to wait until the car completely cools off for to be able to restart the engine again? It wont start until engine cools off. What do i need to do? |
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When it dies, does it have spark? Check that so you can narrow it down to fuel or ignition system.
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Csaba 1972 280SEL 4.5, silver |
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Frank's gas cap idea is a good place to begin. If that doesn't make a difference I'd look at the coil.
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Let us know what (if any) troubleshooting was done. When it won't start / run, is it getting the three critical conditions required TO run?
Report back and let us know which is missing. If you have all three, it will run. So one of the three is missing. One is very easy to test, one easy with a timing light - but if you have no timing light, you can at least verify spark in general without one - and the other would require a compression test tool. It could be anything... Vapor lock, valves too tight that heat up and cause you to lose compression, a failing ignition system (such as the pesky electronic ignition box going out), etc.
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Current: 2021 Charger Scat Pack Widebody "Sinabee" 2018 Durango R/T Previous: 1972 280SE 4.5 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited "Hefe", 1992 Jeep Cherokee Laredo "Jeepy", 2006 Charger R/T "Hemi" 1999 Chrysler 300M - RIP @ 221k |
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As weird as it sounds the removing the gas cap trick will tell you a lot.
Be careful when driving it as you can't imagine how much gas just sloshes out when the gas cap is not down tight. Also, when you do removed the gas cap is a a 'woosh' of pressure released? This is all a part of the 'remove the gas cap' test. I cannot remember if an electronic ignition was used on this car. I know it has a conventional distributor with points and such but right in there somewhere these electronic ignition systems were coming on line to boost the spark voltage. If this is faulty it will fail when it is hot and then, when it cools, act normally. If your car has one of these, and I am not sure if they were used on a car that early, then check the wiring connections and see that they are clean. I once had a '75 doing the same thing and it was nothing more than a tarnished connection in the ignition module. Also pull the coil wire out of the top of your distributor and look for a blue powder. If it there then your coil wire is arcing and this will cause a fail when it heats up, expands and breaks the circuit. After it cools it will then make the connection and you will be OK. Until it heats up again. |
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I had a vw that did this.
Turned out to be rotor arm. As coil got hot the spark reduced and wasn't enough to bridge worn rotor arm. Not mentioned in any manual! Good luck. |
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I asked him how could he know for sure since some Mercedes distributor caps were rather expensive. He said he hooked it up to an ignition analyzer, and old Sun Scope unit he had, and it told him everything the ignition system was doing. It may be hard to find someone with this equipment these days but if such a shop could be found the test results could pinpoint the problem without a lot of guesswork. |
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check the fuel filter
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we figure it out finally.. it was the fuel filter.. we replaced both the filters car is running strong now.. Thanks for the help guys
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I had similar issue with 1971 250C, it was random. Turned out to be fuel contamination from rust in tank. Fuel was suspect, but until I changed to see- thru filters I could not verify. Removed tank, cleaned and sealed with Northern Tank Seal. No more stalling.
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Replace COIL
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1972 W108 280SE 4.5 1977 W116 450SEL 1981 E12 528i BMW |
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