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Old 06-21-2017, 11:48 PM
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One of the other problems in searching US based sellers is the model type. They all lead to 380/450 models . Obviously not many 280SLC's were imported to America.

This leads to the problem of trying to find part No's etc. I believe only 9000 280 models were built so getting parts can be a problem.


This is why many people even in the US decide to rip out a perfectly good functioning MB system or even entire engine. They claim they can't find parts.

I agree that the MB system for identifying the correct part/replacement part is not what most American mechanics are used to doing. Thailand may be the same.

As a Euro MB owner in the US, one that doesn't take his car to the MB dealer for service, I believe having access to the Mercedes EPC (electronic parts catalog) is the first step in being able to successfully maintain the cars. You punch in your VIN. Find the area of the car you are working on. Then find the part number(s) for the parts you need. Then start googling or going to the various MB Dealer web sites for price quotes, or just google. It's not hard. I have a handful of sites I buy from:
- MB Classic Center
- FCP Euro
- ********AZ
- My mechanic's WorldPac supplier
- eBay
In all the cases above, I start with a part number, not the year and model.

I've seen some wonderful cars ruined because people did not understand how the system works.
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Old 06-21-2017, 11:57 PM
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kjetronic

Here's a similar story of someone trying to convert a 107 to a carb. Not an m110, which should be easier since there are carbed m110, but just an example of how someone can make it 80% of the way, and in the end have a parts car because the last 20% was still monumental.

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/r-c107-sl-slc-class/1640814-carbmani.html

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/r-c107-sl-slc-class/1642412-carb-mani.html

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1651485

I don't want to discourage the effort, but would be even more sad to see another failed effort.


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Old 06-22-2017, 12:01 AM
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Believe me it's much worse here in Thailand. The classic/vintage car scene is not big. The first question people ask you about a vintage merc' is 'what engine did you fit? Honda? Toyota? They keep the old engine til the next year check then after it's noted in book they throw the original in the scrap heap.
It's changing slowly but I can't begin to imagine the number of classic engines etc that have been binned.
If you have some time take a look at a website called Thaivisa and check thru for the forum on Super Cars in Thailand, in the Thainews forum. It's entertaining. 😆
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There are really only 2 hurdles to overcome when swapping any FI to carb.

Finding a suitable carb and providing heat to the intake below the carb for proper vaporization, everything else is standard fabrication.

What does the stock FI intake look like?
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I reckon that heat to the manifold would not be required here. Coldest I've seen in this area is about 16'C and that was a couple of days in 20+ years. Normal range is 24 to high 30's all year.
Cold starts don't exist.
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Mixture distribution would be a real problem if a carb was bolted to this manifold.

You might be able to cut the flange off and use it as a basis for a fabricated manifold. Drag racers running USA V8 engines frequently make sheet aluminum manifolds. Still, the carb manifold posted above coupled to a GM Quadrajet would be a more direct route.
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Old 06-23-2017, 10:21 PM
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The manifold will be removed and replaced.
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Old 06-24-2017, 01:23 AM
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First job is to very carefully remove the quarter tank of gas.
Not sure of the easiest and safest way to do.
50 metres of fuel tube from the fuel distributor to a large jerrycan outside and switch on the pump?
Large container under the trunk and remove a hose?
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I've done both, no mater the method, be sure to have a ground between the car and can. Flowing liquid can make static electricity.
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Old 06-24-2017, 10:16 AM
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Funny. I'm in Hong Kong with a Weber 38 carb M110 in the car and I wish it was a djet/kjet
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If you want a suggestion to get the mixture set properly have google at Gunson Colortune. It allows you to see inside the chamber and adjust until you get a nice sky blue burn. Used to use one, well 3 in fact, on my old e type many years ago.
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I'll be sure to check it out. Thanks.
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If you want a suggestion to get the mixture set properly have google at Gunson Colortune. It allows you to see inside the chamber and adjust until you get a nice sky blue burn. Used to use one, well 3 in fact, on my old e type many years ago.


Why 3? It's worth the $70?
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lazy, did it one for each carb.
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