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Old 10-04-2017, 07:12 PM
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Idle is probably right re. the carbs. In my experience with shippers I have never had a carbureted car arrive to me or my buyers running right no matter how beautifully they run before they are loaded onto the truck. They love to let them idle and get loaded up with the chokes on. No amount of instructions make a difference. It's the nature of the beast. They seem to do OK with FI cars.
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Old 10-05-2017, 01:15 PM
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I don't see any marking on the carbs. Pelican references two different nomeclatures for their rebuild kitsl 34-4 INAT and 35/40.

Can anyone advise?

Can anyone point to a good rebuild manual or online instructions?
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Old 10-05-2017, 01:50 PM
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35/40. Get the Royze kit. I have three manuals but for some reason I can't upload them. Look for Jaime Kopp's Zenith manual. There are two others available that are BMW service manuals. BMW used the same carbs in the early 70s.

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Old 10-05-2017, 02:39 PM
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I can't thank you all enough for the input!!

BTW any thoughts on what it was that I dug out of the carb?
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Old 10-05-2017, 02:40 PM
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35/40. Get the Royze kit. I have three manuals but for some reason I can't upload them. Look for Jaime Kopp's Zenith manual. There are two others available that are BMW service manuals. BMW used the same carbs in the early 70s.
Any suggestions on which manual is the best, I'm trying to find one for sale.
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Old 10-05-2017, 03:11 PM
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If you will PM your e-mai address I'll send them to you.
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Old 10-06-2017, 09:12 AM
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35/40. Get the Royze kit. I have three manuals but for some reason I can't upload them. Look for Jaime Kopp's Zenith manual. There are two others available that are BMW service manuals. BMW used the same carbs in the early 70s.




I had a 67 230S and had zero problems with fuel or performance once the carbs were set.


They were Zenith 35/40 INAT or JNAT-- same thing, different sales location.


There's a great free manual on the Net.


It's very helpful to have several clean flat blade screwdrivers, a vacuum gauge and some carb cleaner.


Patience over a few hours and you will have a perfectly running car.


Mine was sold about 1986, so I have nothing left of that late Fintail, tho there's a Fintail forum called Heckflosse that does speak English.


There used to be a real knowledgeable guy on the Fintails named Karl Friedlander, but I have no clue where he is now, that was a while ago.


Good luck!


If I find the manual I will send you a message here and mail it to you no charge. Be warned-- I have a lot of stuff to look through.


You can ask whunter, I once gave hi
m about 50+ copies of MB FSM I didn't use.
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My 1968 230 has been converted to weber carbs. The car is also in pieces right now
That's always an option if you don't mind straying from original.
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Old 10-11-2017, 10:10 PM
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Okay folks here's the update.

I traded in my man card and sent the car off to the shop. The seller graciously allowed a significant cash holdback until this was sorted. Between my lack of time and the weather I just wasn't addressing this in a respectful length of time.

And the winner is...dobrodan! Not only was the timing off 180 degrees a couple plug wires were out of order. Seems the shipper only knew enough to make matters worse.

Once sorted it ran smooth as silk, no smoke, no drama.

I want to thank EVERYONE that contributed here! I've scored a shop manual, some online carb resources, and a pile of insight! Oh and a running car!

Now while I have your attention, I need to address the rear brakes to pass the safety the cylinders are leaking. I don't see anything on Pelican, should I give MB Classics a call?
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Excellent news to hear that you have now got the Fintail running!

The wheel cylinders for your rear brakes are readily available on a number of web sites, as are the hoses (I would recommend checking those while you're doing the brakes) and all other hydraulic components. The brake shoes can be a bit tough to find new, but they can be re-lined if they are getting worn.
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Shoes are available new from the classic center, but you'll pay an arm and a leg for them. Best bet is to have yours relined, unless you get lucky watching flebay for some. Im in the process of doing a complete brake rebuild, eveything will be new on my 68 minus the lines.
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Thanks Fitts I am getting them relined. Classics had the cylinders and suggested rear lines as apparently they are often deteriorated on the inside.
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How is your Heckflosse doing now? Is it on the road? They are enjoyable cars to drive.
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It IS on the road! Sorry I missed the question. I only had about a month of driving before it had to go to slumber for the winter. We squeezed in a great three day road trip on some amazing roads, a 'poker run', and a few great day drives too!

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