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Old 11-05-2003, 03:42 AM
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price for 1962 220sb

Hello I have lots of experience with turbo diesel non with gassers I saw a fintail in the junkyard and fell in love. One just came up for sale today he must sell by Friday. The asking price is $1500. 2 owners original black paint in great condition over all claims the car is in very good condition only thing wrong is master cylinder just went out he has a recent triple a report on the condition of the car. Is this a fair price he claims absolutely no rust. Is there any thing I should watch out for? It’s a 1962 220sb
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Old 11-05-2003, 05:35 AM
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Year is unimportant...... in fact, the '62 has better appointments than does the '67 - but you might not get front discs if thats important.

Like any old car, check for lotsa smoke at startup or under acceleration (valve job or rings)...... excessive oil burning (1000 miles per quart is NOT bad)..... throw it on lift and check the suspension too (kingpins and bushings).

Compared with '80s ball joint models the 220Sb tracks stiffer and straighter but its slightly less responsive. Some say the 111 is the best ballanced road car that MB ever built. At speed, it rides like its on rails...... definitely the best snow car they ever made.

If its standard shift, check the linkage bushings and clutch for play and slippage.... if its automatic, search "hydrak" here to see what you are in for.

Overall - the early 111's have got better seats, better interior and more durable and overbuilt components than any other MB..... thats just my opinion. Hell, I'd trade my 123 straight across for a decent 110 if I could find one.

And the 220Sb has got practically no over-engineered fiddly bits to give you trouble - but A/C is likely to suck, if its there at all.
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Old 11-05-2003, 06:07 AM
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thank you

Thank you for your input very happy to hear about the handling ability. yes it has drum brakes but i was hoping to get some disc brakes from the bone yard.
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Old 11-05-2003, 01:20 PM
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I just replaced the master cylinder on mine. It was a pain trying to find the part. You should just go to a dealer and shell out the 400 bucks for it. It's single circuirt brake master cylinder, so if you go through PartsShop, you have to make it clear that they can only get it through a dealer, otherwise they might send you a dual circuit master cylinder like they did me.
I also wished to replace the clutch master, but not even the dealer could locate the right part. It's a pretty easy job though.
If it is in nice shape cosmetically, and nothing major is wrong with the engine or tranny, then I'd say that price is a steal!

Expect that the other fiddly bits might need work, like the shift linkage, brake booster or exhaust.
Also, ask them if they regularly greased the chassis. Theres about 20 zerks under the car that need greasing. I try to do it every oil change. Hopefully an owners manual comes with it, there's lots of things in there you need to know, like how to oil the distributor and that the manual transmission takes ATF.
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Old 11-07-2003, 03:40 AM
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Drum brakes and kingpins in the front suspension. Lost of improvements with the 1963 model year changeover. Discs, dual circuit brakes. It might be wise to convert to dual circuit.

Oh, remotely mounted brake booster too.
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Keep in mind, if you're planning to convert to front discs later, you may need to change the master cylinder again. Check with your nearest MB dealer to see if the part numbers are different. If you also want dual circuit hydraulics, you'll need the firewall mounted master cylinder / power booster combo.

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Old 11-07-2003, 04:20 PM
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I would say it's worth it if it's really as good as you described. Hell, I'd go so far to say as it's a STEAL! He has to get rid of it in a hurry and it's priced to go!
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You'll also have to re-plumb the brake lines if you go to dual circuit.
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Old 11-07-2003, 06:51 PM
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If it's as good as described, I'd go for it,
and, as someone onc told me, "You can restore a car many times but it's only original once".
The biggest expense on these cars is to restore the body and interior on a shabby one. I got my '60 220S for free but it would cost many many times more than $1500 to have someone restore the body and paint, not to mention the leather and woodwork. If mine hadn't belonged to a friend and wasn't such a nice running, driving car, I'd look for a better one. I've gotten used to the drum brakes and manual steerng on my Finnie and now really enjoy diving it, though I don't drive it everyday in rush hour traffic.
One other thing, these cars are most satisfying to drive with a manual-shift so I'd avoid the automatic or the semi-automatic 'Hydrak' (though the Hydrak can be converted to a fully manual-shift)

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