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will a 123 radiator fit on a 108 chasis?
I have a 69 280se with an automatic, and it has the tranny cooler and oil cooler. While replacing my tranny lines to the radiator, there was no place to put a wrench on the radiator. With the force needed to remove the old line I noticed that the insert in the radiator twisted just a bit. It isn't leaking and water, but I am not comfortable with this.
I will keep the old radiator, but for the moment, I was wondering if I could use one off of a 240D or something, with the cap on top. Thanks. |
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Do the W108 radiators bolt in from the side? Are the W123 radiators clip on, so the speak?
Maybe you should look into a seperate oil cooler instead of using the built in one on the 108. A radiator shop, if any still exist, might be able to fix it for you .
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Regards Warren Currently 1965 220Sb, 2002 FORD Crown Vic Police Interceptor Had 1965 220SEb, 1967 230S, 280SE 4.5, 300SE (W126), 420SEL ENTER > = (HP RPN) Not part of the in-crowd since 1952. |
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No bolts retain a radiator in the 108's. They are held in place by a rubber strip on each side and two rubber rings, one of which is a bear to get on. One ring is one the radiator side, the second is on the oil cooler side. The oil cooler is physically bolted to the radiator with two long carriage bolts.
123 radiators are plastic I believe, while the 108's are brass. Don't think the idea will work. However, I could be wrong.
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I believe it is a 123 radiator that I used on my '71 108. Needed a replacement and found a near new aluminum one at the "pick your part" for just $40 I just could not pass it up! So I set upon myself the task of making it fit.
Turned out to be such a fairly easy modification that I went back to the "yard" in order to do the same for the '70. Well, didn't find another aluminum one but found a brass one and it's in it now. I'll take some pictures of the mods and post them later. Don't give up just yet! |
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Keep in mind that aged plastic radiators often break (the upper-hose fitting is a weak spot) and are nearly impossible to fix. The brass radiators can be resoldered and recored if needed.
Happy Motoring, Mark
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Gotta 2nd Mark's opinion on superiority of old world brass radiator that's recorable, generally weldable and rebuildable compared with crappy plastic radiator plagued with necks snapping where hoses attach on account of people overtorqueing hose ring clamps that only need 8-10 ft lbs torque to hold their seal. If you've got twisted goose-neck where tranny fluid hose fits - maybe the radiator shop can heat it up and bend it back in place, even fitting a sleeve for greater strenth.
Dammit, I honestly cant think of anything except possibly the engine and tranny from the 123 that would be an improvement on *any* of the earlier models....... NOT the fragile ball joint suspension; NOT the feeble rear axles; and certainly NOT any fiddly bits like the most over-engineered climate control system thats ever been designed or the ridiculous cruise control that generally needs $300 rebuild each 4 yrs. I dunno who cooked up the idea of dumbass plastic radiator, probably "genius" engineer who proved on paper that plastic is better heat dissipator than brass.... but the 123 radiator is something that 123 owners themselves hate to have. |
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The CAFE rules were the bright ones that cooked up the plastic radiators. Save a few pounds per car and the average gas mileage goes up.
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Regards Warren Currently 1965 220Sb, 2002 FORD Crown Vic Police Interceptor Had 1965 220SEb, 1967 230S, 280SE 4.5, 300SE (W126), 420SEL ENTER > = (HP RPN) Not part of the in-crowd since 1952. |
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