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Old 03-04-2004, 02:06 PM
yorktown5
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Sometimes even I get lucky.

Sunday, I decided to put new brake pads on my 79 280CE. Short version is that I couldn't get the caliper back on with the new pads in place and after squeezing the pistons as far in as they'd go to make room, and trying everything I could think of, I gave up and put the old pads back in (which hadn't quite hit the wear sensors yet) until I could figure what the problem was. Before you experts let me know how dumb I was, yes, I NOW know that pre-85 Benz used thinner pads, and while subsequent pads are the same shape, they are too thick...live and learn. After re-assembly, I surely got some air in the lines, as the brakes were now slightly mushy, so I "burped" the system from the top and added a small amount of fluid. This weekend planned to fully bleed the lines. Never made it. Driving home last night, I needed to slow and make a right turn. Foot pressure on the brake was about normal when suddenly, the pedal dropped almost to the floorboard and the brakes stopped working. I made the turn successfully, pumped the brake and got some resistance, and in the rear view mirror saw a huge, dense plume of white smoke come from the back of the car. What the?? At the next stop sign, brakes were very mushy and didn't work well. I nursed the car home, figuring I blew a line somewhere, and because it was sleeting, the underside of the car was too wet to pinpoint the problem. All night, I wondered...had I screwed up something? Did I blow a caliper seal, line or even the master cylinder? Where'd the smoke come from? Well, I waited until rush hour was over as the route to the local indy MB shop requires some highway travel, and since I had no brakes it was going to be an interesting trip. MB guy said: "caliper seal? We don't replace them anymore for liability reasons. Just put in new ones. And if you blew seals in the master cylinder...well (I think I could actually feel my wallet getting thinner the more he talked). I'll get to it tomorrow and call you with the diagnosis." Well, only 2 hours later he called: "drove your car inside and washed off all the brake fluid underneath. Saw that one of your brake rez' was empty, and the other full, and that you had a can of fluid on the seat. Used it to fill up. Pumped the brakes and guess what? (By now I'm having visions of a second house mortgage) The bleeder valve on the left front caliper was open slightly! You squirted brake fluid onto the engine causing the smoke. I bled the line, closed the valve and test drove the car. Your brakes are fine! You owe me $44 bucks." Whew. Dodged a bullet this time.

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Old 03-04-2004, 10:39 PM
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lol, when i bought my 67 250s a couple of years ago, i noticed the brakes pulled a little on the ride home. i wasnt really worried on the freeway. so i notice at the 1st stop light that the pedal was kinda mushy, and that every pump resulted in a puff of smoke from the right front. so i pulled over, and happened to notice when you pumped the brakes the bad caliper piston would shoot brake fluid on the hot rotor and catch on fire (!), needless to say using the ebrake on the way home and new calipers were next....


so that didnt really apply too much, but hey at least its an easy fix!

mike

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