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03-31-2005, 05:17 PM
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Tire Siping??
I called up Less Schwab today to get a price on four 195/70/14 tires and she asked if I wanted to get them "siped" for an additional $11.25 ea, say what,
 is that like muffler grease?  She said, "tiny slits are cut in the tread and makes a huge improvement in traction" and when I asked her about the down side, she said "there is none",......OK, I dont live where theres lots of talk down at the Chatter Box Cafe, about traction tires so is this something that I should know about when shopping for tires Heres an intereating write up, no downside?http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/tech/sipe/
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 1985 Euro 240D 5 spd 140K 1979 240D 5 spd, 40K on engine rebuild 1994 Dodge/Cummins, 5 spd, 121K 1964 Allice Chalmers D15 tractor 2014 Kubota L3800 tractor 1964 VW bug "Lifes too short to drive a boring car" Last edited by Stevo; 03-31-2005 at 05:30 PM. 
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03-31-2005, 05:52 PM
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Back in my SCCA racing days we use to use those heated knifes to make rain tires out of racing slicks.
I would not screw around with modern tires. Just what you need some pimple faced kid at the shop cutting up your new tires!!
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Bill Reimels Now down to one: 1972 300SE 3.5 W109 (Euro delivery)
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03-31-2005, 06:11 PM
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Proud owner of .... 1971 280SE W108 1979 300SD W116 1983 300D W123 1975 Ironhead Sportster chopper 1987 GMC 3/4 ton 4X4 Diesel 1989 Honda Civic (Heavily modified) --------------------- Section 609 MVAC Certified --------------------- "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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03-31-2005, 06:12 PM
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I can see a $45 downside from where I am sitting.
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03-31-2005, 06:15 PM
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I can see tires Chunking from down the street.......
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Proud owner of .... 1971 280SE W108 1979 300SD W116 1983 300D W123 1975 Ironhead Sportster chopper 1987 GMC 3/4 ton 4X4 Diesel 1989 Honda Civic (Heavily modified) --------------------- Section 609 MVAC Certified --------------------- "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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03-31-2005, 06:29 PM
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I'm sure it will do wonders for your warranty
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84 300DT Puke Yellow. Totalled after 438,000 84 300DT Orient Red. 169,000 (actual mileage may vary) 2002 Explorer EB (wife's)
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03-31-2005, 08:14 PM
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Wow...interesting feed back, Yah.. $45 struck me right away as a "downside" So I havent missed much
Thanks
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1985 Euro 240D 5 spd 140K 1979 240D 5 spd, 40K on engine rebuild 1994 Dodge/Cummins, 5 spd, 121K 1964 Allice Chalmers D15 tractor 2014 Kubota L3800 tractor 1964 VW bug "Lifes too short to drive a boring car"
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03-31-2005, 08:53 PM
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depending the type of tire(tyre?) i see no reason to have a street tire siped. there are some really aggressive street tires that look well cut from the factory. i would think the factory knows what they are doing when they groove the tires at the plant.
are you playing ricer racer on the side? if so maybe its worth the winnings. are you driving on the street and enjoying your cart? fuh get it. chunking and warrenty prob with that supplier comes to my mind also.
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currently [1981 300 td tdidi 165500 dark brown/palamino-Brownie-mine-3k miles of ownership 1983 240d 162+++ Anthricite grey w/ henna red interior and hella lights-wifes car-Red the above two cars are for sale and can be seen on the cars for sale thread here. pix also available. 240d-144+ Manilla Yellow w/ palmino interior-greasecar kit-Blondie-the college kids car 23" gt 21 speed still on original tires-still got the nubs 21" khs tandem
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03-31-2005, 10:08 PM
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If you want more traction get a better tire. Try a Dunlop SP9000 or a Yoko AVS. Just try to break an SP9000 lose.
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03-31-2005, 10:34 PM
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Modern tires are designed by engineers with computer aided design and nearly 100 years of research data. The guy at the tire store works with intuition, superstition, fear and ignorance, your choice.
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03-31-2005, 10:39 PM
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Hmmmm, a common practice where I live. Much better to stud the tires if you intend to drive on snow.....
Major downside is they probally wont last as long as the original tire.....
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#12
04-01-2005, 01:25 AM
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Gonna pave your driveway?
After lengthy crossexamination of one of Les's best when he tried to talk me into having our new Toyos siped, Les's best did admit that siping is not advised for cars frequently driven on gravel.
You know the road I live on. I know your driveway. No sipe, nor sir. Phil '84 Euro 300D w/ Kuhmos and no siping '85 Calif 300D w/Toyos and no siping
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#13
04-01-2005, 10:42 AM
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Phil
Great feed back, I had never heard of "siping" and think I will remain "unsiped" also Pulled the TD eng & Kirk bought the tranny 
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1985 Euro 240D 5 spd 140K 1979 240D 5 spd, 40K on engine rebuild 1994 Dodge/Cummins, 5 spd, 121K 1964 Allice Chalmers D15 tractor 2014 Kubota L3800 tractor 1964 VW bug "Lifes too short to drive a boring car"
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#14
04-01-2005, 11:00 AM
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Sounds like a medical procedure to me, did the salesman there have a sample case, maybe a few magnets and some Snake Oil?
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