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Old 11-05-2005, 06:43 PM
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what, no brake sensor rear wheels? WTF!!

I thought for sure that the 350SDl, which retailed for $60K new would have rear brake sensors. Certainly NOT the case I found out the expensive way...

Brakes went out thurs nite, in the middle of a 250 mile drive. Mech shows me
the brake pads and rotors shot. Original brake pads, stamped 1991 on back of pad...

I say: "no rear sensors?"

he says: "no sensors. 'bout $150.00. both sides.

I say: "go for it..."

WTF???

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Old 11-05-2005, 06:47 PM
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$0.0013 per mile. Pretty cheap if you look at it that way.
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Old 11-05-2005, 06:51 PM
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The W123s don't have rear sensors either. I guess the idea is that you need to take a look at the rears when you replace the fronts. The rears seem to last about 3 times as long as the fronts, but not forever.
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In the future I'd suggest you inspect the components of your brake system at least once a decade.
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Old 11-05-2005, 06:52 PM
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umm

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I thought for sure that the 350SDl, which retailed for $60K new would have rear brake sensors. Certainly NOT the case I found out the expensive way...

Brakes went out thurs nite, in the middle of a 250 mile drive. Mech shows me
the brake pads and rotors shot. Original brake pads, stamped 1991 on back of pad...

I say: "no rear sensors?"

he says: "no sensors. 'bout $150.00. both sides.

I say: "go for it..."

WTF???

did you ever learn to inspect things like this? i check all of those things quite often.
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Old 11-05-2005, 06:54 PM
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When the front sensors go off, I go ahead and replace all four sets of pads. The rear pads are cheaper than the front, so I might as well. Haven't had to change rotors yet, but the next pad change will probably put me in rotor replacement land.

Sensors like those are a mixed blessing, when they work they keep you safe, and when they fail they are just another annoying thing to fix (or worse, they lull you into a false sense of security, and then fail).

I treat my brake sensor like my fuel reserve light. I'm glad its there, but I try not to rely on it to much.

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In the future I'd suggest you inspect the components of your brake system at least once a decade.
That has got to be the quote of the day!

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Old 11-05-2005, 07:56 PM
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actually, Pennsylvania requires a yearly mechanical safety inspection. My mechanic who also does my inspections, reviewed his records and checked the rears at 40% in June, 2005; 55% in June 2004; 60% n 2003 and 2002.

Go figure.
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Old 11-05-2005, 07:57 PM
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A lot of Mercedes don't have rear wear sensors.

In the maintenance booklet in my car, it says to visually check the condition of the disks and pads every 15k miles. It should be done regularly, or at least once in the life of the car.
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Old 11-05-2005, 08:14 PM
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My mechanic who also does my inspections, reviewed his records and checked the rears at 40% in June, 2005; 55% in June 2004; 60% n 2003 and 2002.
Sounds like he needs to clean his glasses.
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Old 11-05-2005, 08:20 PM
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Sounds like the mechanic screwed up or you have a sticky caliper. Rear pads should be inspected every time you rotate your tires along with the rest of the suspension. They have a life span of over 100k miles so their is no reason they should be neglected like that.
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Old 11-05-2005, 10:04 PM
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My 350 sdl had the pads that squeek cyclically when worn....old fashion warning but works pretty well.
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Old 11-06-2005, 08:22 AM
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As we all know rear brakes last MUCH longer than fronts. During the life of rear brakes the rear wheels will have to be removed at one point or another, hopefully often, due to tire rotation. You do rotate your tires don't you?

Upon removal of a wheel, it takes probably no more than about 3 extra seconds to simply look at the pads to see how thick they are. You don't have to go to the toolbox for any measuring instruments. Just look at them. If they are thin or getting thin, get some pads and stick them in there.

With the wheels off on most MB's you can stick in a new set of pads in five or ten minutes per wheel or less.

Pads are cheap, rotors are not and your life is PRICELESS.

When I was 13 I drug home a 48 Chevy that I bought for $12.50. About $75 and a year later it was on the road. My Dad absolutely would NOT let me drive it until the brakes, steering and exhaust were all in condition to his satisfaction. He didn't care if the engine wouldn't get me to the end of the block, but he managed to stress and teach about auto mechanical safety with all that.

Don't take your brakes for granted. Get in the ABSOLUTE HABIT of ALWAYS looking at pad thickness ANY TIME a wheel is off for any reason. Also get in the habit of looking for fluid leaks and glancing at the reservoir to see that it is full and clean. Also pay attention any time the brakes don't feel right.

Good luck,

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