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Old 09-11-2006, 03:23 PM
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What size lugs?

What size are the 123s? 12mm or 14mm? Where can I get a set of 20 for less than $4 per?

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Old 09-11-2006, 03:37 PM
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12MM

www.*************** about $2.75 each - orders over $50 you get free shipping
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Old 09-11-2006, 04:32 PM
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12MM

www.*************** about $2.75 each - orders over $50 you get free shipping
I need long shank ones.....
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Old 09-11-2006, 04:58 PM
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ahh to work with your new wheels right, look up ones for a 01 and up c-class.

$3.40 each

http://www.***************/search/productx.aspx?sid=fajzb4b5bqnzhl452ifittfe&makeid=800016@Mercedes&modelid=1374117@C320&year=2001&cid =lug@lug&gid=7680@Wheel%20Lug%20Bolt/Stud
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Old 09-11-2006, 05:00 PM
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I found a place with 12x39mm lugs for under $40. Chrome even. Think those will do the job?
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Old 09-11-2006, 10:39 PM
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2cm difference is a lot of meat. I'll have to compare in the morning when I get to work but I'm going to have to nix the idea for now. too short.

the site says the correct ones are 61mm long.
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Old 09-12-2006, 04:52 PM
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2cm difference is a lot of meat. I'll have to compare in the morning when I get to work but I'm going to have to nix the idea for now. too short.

the site says the correct ones are 61mm long.
61mm overall? 39mm refers to thread length. These are the rims I am mounting

Is that a ball or conical seat?
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can't see the pic here at work but if its 39mm from the base of the seat to the thread end, then 39mm is correct.

the lug should be 61mm from base to tip. ball seat.
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Old 09-12-2006, 11:32 PM
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Johnhef,

I have 1997 W210, tried 2001 W220 wheel but lug is too short and the tire rubs the shock. perhaps I need some spacer but don't know the size.
Want to buy 2003 W211 whells but according to some post the lug may be different.

Please advise if I get W220, what kind of lug and specer needed.
If I get W211, what size of lug is needed and where to get aLL those things.
Last, which one is better to replace with W220 or W211 stock wheel/tire.

Appreciate your suggestion.
Thanks

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Old 09-12-2006, 11:57 PM
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If you just want to update the look, just stick with later model 210 wheels, theres plenty of 17" styles that will bolt right up no problem. even CLK wheels will work too.
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Old 09-13-2006, 12:25 AM
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Johnhef

Thanks for the quick reply. What I want to do now is to get back to stock rims but 17 inch most preferably. There are plenty of W220 (from S calss, of course you know) and one from W211 which is later model of W210 offred. So when you wrote later model are you referring to W211 or W210.
Also what year od the CLK will fit right away?

Thanks again

Frank
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Old 09-13-2006, 09:22 AM
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later model 210 like 01 or 02. 211 wheels may fit - but - they use 14mm diameter lugs as opposed to the 12mm that the 210 uses. CLK of the same years as the 210 should work.
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Old 09-14-2006, 11:52 AM
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Thanks for all the tips.
I think I am well equiped now in searching wheels/tires replacement for my benz

Frank

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