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Old 02-21-2000, 01:20 PM
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Folks,

For my 450 SEL, 1978 I am upgrading my rims to 16” from the original 14”. Tirerack sells AMG Aero 1pc for $325.00 and ATP type 8 for $129.00 I like the looks of both. Why such price difference? Am I missing something? Also I am going for Yokohama Avid V4 225/60VR 16.

A friend told me to install “Kleen Wheels” and spray the rims with clear coat. Do these things really work? And if they do who sells them? Thanks

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The AMG are original Mercedes-Benz quality rims. They are more expensive while ATP uses cheaper means of producing rims. Also, since they are replicas, they do not have to create a new design, they can just make a replica. The ATPs are a good choice though and I would go with them.
For the wheel, if you put a clearcoat and add the kleenwheels, you will not get the brake dust coverage you normally get. They will be much more powdery and easier to clean then normal.

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Old 02-21-2000, 03:13 PM
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I would be careful about using Kleenwheel covers. Although they do a good job keeping the wheels clean, they may not cool the brakes efficiently. Just a thought.

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Old 02-21-2000, 05:23 PM
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Both the AMG and ATP wheels are clear coated from the factories. All you have to do to wax them, inside and outside, to make cleaning/washing easier. I would not use brake shields because it may cause rotors warpage from excessive heat. Also 225/55-16 is closer to your original tire diameter than the 225/60-16.
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True, but what some people do is add another layer of clear coat, it does make more sense to wax them. The Kleen wheel brake dust shields are pretty good, becuase they are vented to provide the brakes enough air to cool down. I use them, and they actually keep them cooler then before. That is why the dealer recommends Only kleen wheels and no other ones. Other non-ventilated brake dust shields can cause major heat build up. Hope this helps.

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Old 02-21-2000, 07:11 PM
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As for rims,both are nice choice. AS for the Kleenwheel, I am with Jeneric21 here as those Kleenwheel tend to keep the brake dust in(that's why your wheel will be cleaner), and there is a high possibility of brake fade and rotor warpage(uneven wear caused by brake dust).

Just clean and wax the wheels regulary, and you should be fine....

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Old 02-25-2000, 04:55 PM
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The AMG wheels are deigned and built exclusively for mercedes benz while the ATP wheels are replicas that are mass produced with cost being the main concern. We do offer the Kleen Wheel dust covers also

Thanks, Luke@tirerack.com
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Old 02-25-2000, 05:05 PM
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I had ATP replica 8 holes on my 1990 300E, which I replaced with AMG monoblock 17" wheels (the 8 holes were 16") and the differnce in quality is amazing...you'd think a wheel is a wheel is a wheel, but it feels like the ride actually got SMOOTHER with the AMG wheels...just running your hands over them and examining them prior to mounting them, you can see the differences in engineering and production...just my two cents.

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Old 02-25-2000, 05:59 PM
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I've got Mille Miglia E430 Sport lookalike rims on my Wagen, and AMG 5 spokes on my 500E. The AMG wheels are of considerably higher quality, but I think it's a case of diminishing returns...they're not THAT much nicer than the MMs, but cost almost 3X more! Undeniably nice, though, but as long as the wheel's TUV approved you'll be fine.

Speaking of high quality wheels, BBS is another brand worth looking at...I recently checked out a set of 19" $1,000 per AMG 3 piece wheels, and they were manufactured by BBS!

And unless you are a VERY mellow driver, forget the Kleen Wheels. F'rinstance, if used on a new(er) car many MBZ dealers will void brake related warranty repairs and that is a fact.

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