Emergency Rim interchangeability - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

strelnik · #1 03-08-2009, 12:06 PM

This came up in another thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Actros617

Our first mercedes it a pita, it was a china blue bought it from a car lot, for $675 it was a 1977 300D, and it was an @$$ to bring it back home.... about 10 min later the tire goes BANG! Went to the trunk and the tire is flat, so we used our trusty toyota camry sport rim 1 inch bigger but it worked,...

What other brands of rims fit the Benz 112 MM 5 bolt pattern?
For what years?

This can be helpful in emergencies and picking up rims at junkyards for emergency transportation.

As a starter, I know that:

All passenger car rims from 1936-1953 (all 170 series, 260 Diesel, 300 Gullwing and Adenauer series to 1962) use either 15' or 16"
rims approx 115 mm apart and 5 x 14mm studs with 19mm lug nuts/lug wrench.

All rims, no matter what diameter, between 1954 and 1985 (except the 1953-62 300 limo and gullwing series) use a 5 bolt pattern where the studs/holes are 12mm and the holes are 112mm from center. The lug wrench is 17mm.

Has anyone ever gotten any other rims from any other cars that fit, in an emergency?

Do Bimmer rims fit? VW? To secure on a trailer or roll into a garage?

I have never seen a thread on this.

If it needs to be duplicated and moved to tech help for gassers, be my guest.

Thanks,
S

2.5Turbo · #2 03-08-2009, 02:58 PM

FWIW, I've seen MB wheels on an older VW before. Think it was an early 90's Golf or something. As long as the size and offset are right, it should work.

TheDon · #3 03-08-2009, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2.5Turbo

FWIW, I've seen MB wheels on an older VW before. Think it was an early 90's Golf or something. As long as the size and offset are right, it should work.

as long as the wheel is 5x112 it will work.

IIRC MKII golf's and jetta's are 4 lug

t walgamuth · #4 03-08-2009, 03:03 PM

certain big engined audis will fit...it would follow that big engined vws might as well if five lug.

babymog · #5 03-08-2009, 05:19 PM

I believe that the M-B wheels will bolt on to all Audi 5-bolt and VW 5-bolt (includes Golf & Jetta starting '00 I believe). However, I understand that the center bore for the Mercedes is larger than the Audi/VW (except Vanagon) and therefore the VW/Audi wheels won't fit the Mercedes.

The Vanagon has a larger center bore than the Mercedes (at least my Syncro did).

turbobenz · #6 03-08-2009, 05:46 PM

I saw an older vanagon on cl with bundts

And I also saw a set of bundts for sale labaled as vw wheels

oldsinner111 · #7 03-08-2009, 06:04 PM

BMW does also.I'm looking for Bimmer wheels that stick out more,like the muscle cars.This will give me a wider stance,I can fit the Mercedes Star on the rims.I think BMWs always had better rims.All the wheels they sell now look like frontwheel drive wheels.I want my bolts 4' or more inside rim.

compu_85 · #8 03-08-2009, 07:51 PM

VW Jettas and golfs prior to the current platform use 5x100 wheels if they have 5 lug wheels. The current crop of cars, and Passats from 1998 on use 5x112.

-J

Simpler=Better · #9 03-08-2009, 09:35 PM

3-spoke 1990's Mustang alloy rims fit and clear everything without spacers. They look pretty good once you switch out the center from a mustang to a star...

t walgamuth · #10 03-08-2009, 09:44 PM

I am not aware of any beemer wheels that fit our lug pattern.

bgkast · #11 03-08-2009, 11:07 PM

Just keep your spare in good condition.

oldsinner111 · #12 03-09-2009, 05:07 AM

Well the bolt pattern for BMW is 5X112 too.What I want is the BBS basket weave 14's.But hey Mustang? I want to try.

tompaah7503 · #13 03-09-2009, 05:45 AM

A google search for "bolt patterns" turned out this great list:

http://forums.beyond.ca/st/117406/a-list-of-bolt-patterns/

All 5x112's extracted below:

AUDI
A4 / S4 5x112
A4 '02 (B6) 5x112
S4 Avant '04 (B6) 5x112
S4 Sedan '04 (B6) 5x112
Avant 5x112
Allroad 5x112
A6 / S6 5x112
A8 / S8 5x112
Older Big Cars 5x112

CHRYSLER / DODGE
Crossfire 5x112

VOLKSWAGEN
Passat '98+ 5x112
Eurovan 5x112
Older Vanagon 5x112
MKV VW's Golf and Jetta is 5x112

pimpernell · #14 03-09-2009, 10:22 AM

What other brands of rims fit the Benz 112 MM 5 bolt pattern?
For what years?

This can be helpful in emergencies and picking up rims at junkyards for emergency transportation.

As a starter, I know that:

All passenger car rims from 1936-1953 (all 170 series, 260 Diesel, 300 Gullwing and Adenauer series to 1962) use either 15' or 16"
rims approx 115 mm apart and 5 x 14mm studs with 19mm lug nuts/lug wrench.

All rims, no matter what diameter, between 1954 and 1985 (except the 1953-62 300 limo and gullwing series) use a 5 bolt pattern where the studs/holes are 12mm and the holes are 112mm from center. The lug wrench is 17mm.

Has anyone ever gotten any other rims from any other cars that fit, in an emergency?

Do Bimmer rims fit? VW? To secure on a trailer or roll into a garage?

I have never seen a thread on this.

If it needs to be duplicated and moved to tech help for gassers, be my guest.

Thanks,
S[/QUOTE]

Well, in my case, I got a rude awakening when using the factory supplied spare in the trunk. I purchased the car from the prior owner, and the spare was in the trunk and both the tire and rim looked fine. New tires put on, and about 5000 miles later, I decided to rotate them myself at home using the spare in the rotation process rather than take a chance on two jacks holding up one side of the car. Pulled the spare our of the trunk, put in on the hub, and started to put in the lugs. Low and behold, lugs on the mag wheels were too long for the spare rim, and would not seat the wheel. Thats when I found out that Mercedes supplies a separate set of lugs for the spare rim, which of course I could not find in the trunk. Just happy that my "discovery" occurred in front of my garage, and not on the side of the road with a flat tire. Got the correct lugs on line, and they work like a charm.

mobetta · #15 03-09-2009, 11:20 AM

yes, lug bolts are rim specific.

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