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Old 08-31-2009, 09:06 PM
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Call Luke at Tire Rack, he can probably set you up with some good tires and recommend a local installer.

I've dealt with Tire Rack for over 20years, happy to see someone active here from the place.

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Old 09-05-2009, 09:46 AM
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Many times, the only difference is tread depth.

The specification difference between H and V is resistance to heat, and less tread = less squirm = less heat.
If that is indeed the only difference the explain to me why this page proves you wrong.

I'll save you the trouble of clicking the link by posting the relevant data

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Originally Posted by Michelin Primacy MXV4 Specifications
195/60R15
88H SL 620 A A (UTQG; Treadwear, Traction, Temperature.) 1235 lbs.
44 psi
11/32" Tread Depth
22 lbs. 5.5-7"
6"
7.9"
NA
24.2"
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195/60R15
88V SL 620 A A (UTQG; Treadwear, Traction, Temperature.) 1235 lbs.
44 psi
11/32" Tread Depth
22 lbs. 5.5-7"
6"
7.9"
NA
24.2"
862
US

Bolded mine.

(Copy and paste doesn't table them nicely like the original. But see for yourself.) Compare the 195/60R15, 205/65R15, 205/55R16 and 205/60R16 etc and show me where there is a listed tread depth difference. Or any other metric. The only two sizes where you will find a difference are 215/55R16 and 215/50R17 and the difference is in listed weight.
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Old 09-05-2009, 10:03 AM
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It's not nonsense at all, as you fantasize.

The Costco special tires do NOT use the same rubber nor the same construction.

Michelin data in print states these tires are not low rolling resistance.

They COULD be made to BFG specifications, in fact.

Have a friend that works at a Michelin plant and he knows they use different rubber for BFG tires produced at this same site.
So according to you the "Costco" tires are different huh? Inferior?

Then explain why, trolling through Michelins website, I see the exact same specs for the "Costco" tire, the Michelin X Radial DT are the same as for the standard Michelin Passenger car tire the Michelin Harmony and also the same as the Michelin Destiny, a Discount Tire version of the Harmony.
Pick a size. Something common so you can get coverage in all three varieties.
I used 205/65R15. You could also use 195/65R15, 185/70R14, or 215/65R16. I used sizes on my cars. Pick any of your choice. Compare the data.

I also suggest that when you compare the tires and look for the missing "low rolling resistance" blurb that you NOT compare them to the Hydroedge, any of the "energy" tires or the Primacy MXV4, which are all l.r.r. tires, and none of which have a "bespoke" store variation made by Michelin. It's nice when you make comparisons, but invalid unless you are comparing apples to apples.

It appears you are the one speculating that they are made from inferior rubber. Right here in fact.

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They COULD be made to BFG specifications, in fact.
Which BFG tire has the same treadwear rating and milage warranty as the Michelin X Radial DT?

Of course the BFGs use a different rubber. They are BFGs, not Michelins. Do you really think Michelin would make in house competition for its own tires? And then sell it at a lower price? Really? What sort of business acumen is that?

Edit. I took the time to look through both Michelin and BFG websites and looked through all the pages. I recall seeing a lot of "premium" on Michelins pages but I don't recall any on BFGs. I say that's why they are made of different rubber. But I don't know. I could be "fantasising."
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Following up on this thread, I bought a set of Nexxens from a friend who owns a tire shop. They cost about 1/2 price and I had no dry rot at all in the two years that I owned the car with the tires.
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I'm surprised anyone even pays up for Michelins anymore. I've been happy with various Falken tire for the last 5 years. Also buying online from tire rack and discount tire direct I've never gotten tires that were more 2 months old.
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I bought a set of Nexxens from a friend who owns a tire shop.
Hows the ride? are they quiet?

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Old 10-05-2011, 09:31 PM
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My preference for Michelins stems from their performance as they age and get worn. Pretty much every other brand of tire i've used has had noise/ ride/ wet handling/ fuel efficiency issues as they got beyond 50% wear on the tread. Most were excellent when new (some only when brand new ) but all faded except for the Michelins. Those eventually fell off after about 80% wear...

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