240D Aluminium Rims - Page 3 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

noah brinkman · #31 06-02-2010, 09:46 AM

Paint can hold up well on rims if done properly

painted rims live a pretty harsh life

I am thinking of getting my oem 15 holers from 86 sdl
media blasted

If they look good media blasted i'll leave them for winter wheels
or after blasting get them powder coated (maybe black or charcoal I think it would look cool
on my emerald jade green SDL)

I say powder coat rims or the hubcaps for durability

did mark say he put aluminum drums on a ponton???

doesn't aluminum have the stopping power and heat resistance of cheese!!!

Mark DiSilvestro · #32 06-02-2010, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noah brinkman

Paint can hold up well on rims if done properly

painted rims live a pretty harsh life

I am thinking of getting my oem 15 holers from 86 sdl
media blasted

If they look good media blasted i'll leave them for winter wheels
or after blasting get them powder coated (maybe black or charcoal I think it would look cool
on my emerald jade green SDL)

I say powder coat rims or the hubcaps for durability

did mark say he put aluminum drums on a ponton???

doesn't aluminum have the stopping power and heat resistance of cheese!!!

I've sucsessfully painted alloy rims. It's the shiny chrome hubcaps that I have more trouble painting.
As for the aluminum drums, they are the Mercedes factory 'Alfin' brake drums fitted to the 6-cylinder and 190SL cars. Finned aluminum drums with cast-in iron liners. Better heat-dissapation and much lighter than the finned iron drums fitted to low-priced models like my 180.
Still not as good as a decent set of discs-brakes.

Happy Motoring, Mark

charmalu · #33 07-14-2011, 01:00 AM

Yesterday I swapped out the Steel wheels for the Aluminum wheels, or as MB refers to them "Light Alloy Rim" 5 1/2 J x 14 H 2.

I replaced the Rotors and brake pads, so was a good time to do the wheels.

I droped off the 240`s wheels along with the Light Alloy PNP wheels at Big-O Tires. picked them up in the afternoon, and they didn`t charge me. now that is 4 dismounts, and 2 mounts, new valve stems and a balance, and they kept the old tires.

maybe buying 2 sets of tires for the 85 300D and one set (5) for the 240D helped. last summer I had a flat on the PU, and they didn`t charge for it either, and it has Costco tires. This store definately has coustomer service figured out, and has a loyal coustomer with me.

I did notice the wheel covers are a little harder to get on compared to the Steel wheels. really had to whang on the cover to get it on. almost like the wheel is a little smaller where the clips fit on the edge.

JT20 asked about the lug bolt size in an above post. the Aluminum wheels use the same short bolts as the Steel Wheels.

Now to do the rear wheels and check the brake pads.
I have a trip to Portland,Or next week, we`ll see how the lighter wheels let the car float down the road.

Charlie

gatorblue92 · #34 07-14-2011, 11:19 AM

When I swapped out my steelies for a set of bundts the handling of the car changed pretty dramatically. The car seems to have a little more get up and go... For a 240D... And the ride is much smoother.

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motoxo · #35 07-14-2011, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by charmalu

I did notice the wheel covers are a little harder to get on compared to the Steel wheels. really had to whang on the cover to get it on. almost like the wheel is a little smaller where the clips fit on the edge.
Charlie

i believe the clips are different for steelie vs alloy schweelie.

Stretch · #36 07-14-2011, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by motoxo

i believe the clips are different for steelie vs alloy schweelie.

Yeah I've heard they've got a bit of plastic protection on there - if you were stuck I guess you could use something like Plastidip =>

http://www.plastidip.com/

Stretch · #37 07-14-2011, 01:56 PM

Hey Charlie,

Do have some scales? If so you're the man for the job. What's the difference in weight between a steel rim, an aluminium rim, and a bunt (all 14 inch of course - let's not get confused with the 15" versions just yet).

Stevo · #38 07-14-2011, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charmalu

Yesterday I swapped out the Steel wheels for the Aluminum wheels, or as MB refers to them "Light Alloy Rim" 5 1/2 J x 14 H 2.

I replaced the Rotors and brake pads, so was a good time to do the wheels.

I droped off the 240`s wheels along with the Light Alloy PNP wheels at Big-O Tires. picked them up in the afternoon, and they didn`t charge me. now that is 4 dismounts, and 2 mounts, new valve stems and a balance, and they kept the old tires.

maybe buying 2 sets of tires for the 85 300D and one set (5) for the 240D helped. last summer I had a flat on the PU, and they didn`t charge for it either, and it has Costco tires. This store definately has coustomer service figured out, and has a loyal coustomer with me.

I did notice the wheel covers are a little harder to get on compared to the Steel wheels. really had to whang on the cover to get it on. almost like the wheel is a little smaller where the clips fit on the edge.

JT20 asked about the lug bolt size in an above post. the Aluminum wheels use the same short bolts as the Steel Wheels.

Now to do the rear wheels and check the brake pads.
I have a trip to Portland,Or next week, we`ll see how the lighter wheels let the car float down the road.

Charlie

Just curious, You swapped the "Light Alloy Rim" 5 1/2 J x 14 H 2. on to a 300D? I have them on my 85, 300TD (with 195/75s) which originally had 6x14 alloys. I was wondering about any issue with the 1/2 inch width difference? I just got back from a 1700 hundred mile trip to the Bay Area and the car handled beautifully on the 5 1/2 inch rims. And yes, she did just float down eye 5.

Mark DiSilvestro · #39 07-14-2011, 07:35 PM

Were those alloy rims from P-N-P the silverpainted bundt type or the black-painted ones for hubcaps?
Now, the two W123 240Ds I've owned ('81 & '82) came with black rims tat looked like steel but were actually alloy, and had painted hubcaps with plastic pads on the spring-fingers. Someone on this thread claimed they're actually a few pounds lighter than the factory alloy bundt rims.
I haven't examined the hubcap rims onthe early 300Ds to see if they're alloy or steel.

My Euro TD came with bundts, as did my latest '82 240D, though I recently bought the set of black alloy hubcap rims back from the neighbor I sold one of my previous 240Ds to, after the car was destroyed by fire. The four rims and two of the new tires were undamaged. I also acquired a set of matching painted hubcaps if I want to go that way on my 240D.

Happy Motoring, Mark

Stevo · #40 07-14-2011, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark DiSilvestro

Were those alloy rims from P-N-P the silverpainted bundt type or the black-painted ones for hubcaps

Now, the two W123 240Ds I've owned ('81 & '82) came with black rims tat looked like steel but were actually alloy, and had painted hubcaps with plastic pads on the spring-fingers. Someone on this thread claimed they're actually a few pounds lighter than the factory alloy bundt rims.
I haven't examined the hubcap rims on the early 300Ds to see if they're alloy or steel.

My Euro TD came with bundts, as did my latest '82 240D, though I recently bought the set of black alloy hubcap rims back from the neighbor I sold one of my previous 240Ds to, after the car was destroyed by fire. The four rims and two of the new tires were undamaged. I also acquired a set of matching painted hubcaps if I want to go that way on my 240D.

Happy Motoring, Mark

The "Light Alloy Rim"look like the steel ones but the 6x14 have a silver stripe around the raised part of the rim and the 5 1/2 wide ones have a broken stripe and are much more common. They came on "later"240Ds using painted to match wheel covers. Not many 300s came with wheel covers, which would have the 6 inch wide rims. My Euro TD came with bundts, as well so I used the 5 1/2 ones from a parts 240D. I just went around my parts cars with a magnet when I found out there were "look a like" aluminum rims.

I am on the look out for a set of the 6 inch "Light Alloy Rims", which is what should be on my TD.

charmalu · #41 07-15-2011, 01:47 AM

Motoxo- (quote) i believe the clips are different for steelie vs alloy schweelie.
Interesting that there are two style of clips. maybe i`ll give Phill a call and see what he can locate. being tighter they probably might gouge into the aluminum. I know they were harder to get on. with the steel rims, didn`t take too mch to whack them on.

Army, When I dig out the other wheels from my pile of "schtuff",

I`ll take 3 down to the tire shop, and get 2 mounted and leave one unmounted. then run down to UPS with a steel and a alum one and get the weights. I don`t have a spare bundt to weigh.

Stevo, These wheels went onto a 240D, not a 300D.

Wish I knew you were passing through the Bay Area, Iam a little south and could have run up and met you. Iam on the Monterey Bay area.

These light alloys are the 5 1/2 in wide one`s with the broken silver stripe on the raised portion. I did see a set in the Sacramento PNP a few weeks back that had the solid silver stripe.( Solid silver strip are 6in wide) went back the next day and thought of pulling them, and a guy pulled two of them and left the other two. had a ding and a couple scrapes. not real bad though. first one`s I have seen. I`ll keep my eye open for a set.

Looking in my FSM for the W123, looks like MB had 11 different versions of the steel wheels over the years. some have a solid center piece with 4 sloted open areas, and some have quarter size holes around the inner disk. some have 20 vent holes of 28 mm dia, and some have 18 vent holes 25 mm dia.

The 240D light allow rims have 15 holes spaced a little further apart probably for additional strength. doesn`t list the size or diameter. Does state at the top of the page, "USA" light alloy rims. so maybe only used in the U.S.?

Charlie

Stevo · #42 07-15-2011, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by motoxo

i believe the clips are different for steelie vs alloy schweelie.

As Charlie said the clips are different but I have been using the simple steelie clips for years to hold the wheel covers on my 240D with the "Light Alloy Rims" and have had no problem. The clips for the "Light Alloy Rims" were designed not to scar up the aluminum rims so it would be best to use the proper clip.

motoxo · #43 07-15-2011, 11:08 AM

hehe ... i'm ghetto; i took a permanent market and covered up the broken silver stripe on my alloy rims/wheels. ...

i like running without the painted hub caps. less weight, less parts = less worries. i've kept the caps in case i need to make her look more presentable for any upcoming mb get together.

(my dog is not impressed.)

Stretch · #44 07-15-2011, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by charmalu

...
Army, When I dig out the other wheels from my pile of "schtuff",

I`ll take 3 down to the tire shop, and get 2 mounted and leave one unmounted. then run down to UPS with a steel and a alum one and get the weights. I don`t have a spare bundt to weigh.

...

If you can do those two that would be great - but don't bust a gut.

I can go and weigh a Fuchs 14" Bundt. I'll report back!

Stevo · #45 07-15-2011, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charmalu

Stevo, These wheels went onto a 240D, not a 300D.

Wish I knew you were passing through the Bay Area, Iam a little south and could have run up and met you. Iam on the Monterey Bay area.

These light alloys are the 5 1/2 in wide one`s with the broken silver stripe on the raised portion. I did see a set in the Sacramento PNP a few weeks back that had the solid silver stripe. went back the next day and thought of pulling them, and a guy pulled two of them and left the other two. had a ding and a couple scrapes. not real bad though. first one`s I have seen. I`ll keep my eye open for a set.

Looking in my FSM for the W123, looks like MB had 11 different versions of the steel wheels over the years. some have a solid center piece with 4 sloted open areas, and some have quarter size holes around the inner disk. some have 20 vent holes of 28 mm dia, and some have 18 vent holes 25 mm dia.

The 240D light allow rims have 15 holes spaced a little further apart probably for additional strength. doesn`t list the size or diameter. Does state at the top of the page, "USA" light alloy rims. so maybe only used in the U.S.?

Charlie

I have not seen anything on this forum in the time I've been around about running 5 1/2 rims on a 300D or TD, Hummm. I would hate to go back to alloys as I really like the painted wheel covers plus I put allot of time into painting them

Hopefully next time we head south we could visit the Monterey bay area. My folks used to rent a cabin on Soquel Creek for the summer when I was a kid. We fished off the cement ship and had a fun time at the Santa Cruz board walk, probably changed a little since then