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Yokohama AVID ENVigor -- Opinions?
It's that time again and I am considering these based on positive TireRack reviews.
Anyone here use them?
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2008 E350 4matic / Black/Anthracite ------------------------------------ Gone but not Forgotten: 2001 E430 4matic, 206,xxx miles, Black/Charcoal 1995 E320, 252,xxx miles, Black/Grey 1989 260E, 223,00 miles, Black/Black |
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pretty decent all around tire ... I haven't had an opportunity to drive them in the snow yet though. Snow will be the real test as it's predecessor was pretty weak in the wintery stuff
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I have them up front now. They handle well and actually look very nice too.
I have Pirelli P6s on the rear, which I will be replacing with more ENVigors after they wear down a bit more (too much tread left to discard at this point).
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2008 E350 4matic / Black/Anthracite ------------------------------------ Gone but not Forgotten: 2001 E430 4matic, 206,xxx miles, Black/Charcoal 1995 E320, 252,xxx miles, Black/Grey 1989 260E, 223,00 miles, Black/Black |
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Pro:
They look nice. Decent stability at highway speeds. Cons: They howl at 35 mph and over. Horrible in snow. They grab and let go unpredictably. I would go with BFG Advantage next time.
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They definitely look great. But howling I have not heard; they are very quiet. I did see a few comments on TireRack about tire noise but most others said they were not noisy at all. Must be vehicle-specific.
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2008 E350 4matic / Black/Anthracite ------------------------------------ Gone but not Forgotten: 2001 E430 4matic, 206,xxx miles, Black/Charcoal 1995 E320, 252,xxx miles, Black/Grey 1989 260E, 223,00 miles, Black/Black |
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On the topic of road noise--my wife never knew her old tires (factory Bridgestone Turzanas on a Scion xB) screamed, the MP3 is always way toooo loud to notice. She could run studded snow tires in the summer and not hear road noise. We switched to Potenzas on 18" BBS rims last spring and i really like that car now--fun little thing to drive with a 5 speed!!
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OK – had my center muffler replaced this past weekend and with the exhaust leak drone gone I will concur: These tires are very audible on surfaces that are not smooth.
Smooth asphalt: Dead Silent. Concrete or rough asphalt: You can hear every detail of the road surface. I will nonetheless go ahead and add them to the rear since it is not an annoyance, I don’t mind the additional sensory feedback and, with the radio or A/C on, it is not noticeable.
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2008 E350 4matic / Black/Anthracite ------------------------------------ Gone but not Forgotten: 2001 E430 4matic, 206,xxx miles, Black/Charcoal 1995 E320, 252,xxx miles, Black/Grey 1989 260E, 223,00 miles, Black/Black |
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Question here guys: won't any tire be audible on rough pavement? I recently replaced Michelins with the AVID ENVigors and I'm delighted by how quiet they are on my W124.
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1988 California version 260E (W124) Anthracite Grey/Palomino Owned since new and still going strong and smooth MBCA member Past Mercedes-Benz: 1986 190E Baby Benz 1967 230 Inherited from mom when she downsized 1959 220S Introduced me to the joys of keepin' 'em goin' There are only 10 kinds of people in the world--those who understand binary and those who don't |
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With the ENVigors it seems the pitch, and not necessarily the volume, that is different. Also, I am in need of new engine mounts. It is possible the tire noise I am hearing is largely the result of engine vibration on the frame.
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2008 E350 4matic / Black/Anthracite ------------------------------------ Gone but not Forgotten: 2001 E430 4matic, 206,xxx miles, Black/Charcoal 1995 E320, 252,xxx miles, Black/Grey 1989 260E, 223,00 miles, Black/Black |
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Followup
New mounts are in and I will confirm that these tires are just as quiet at any other. Noise I hear previously was not entirely related to them.
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2008 E350 4matic / Black/Anthracite ------------------------------------ Gone but not Forgotten: 2001 E430 4matic, 206,xxx miles, Black/Charcoal 1995 E320, 252,xxx miles, Black/Grey 1989 260E, 223,00 miles, Black/Black |
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i have these tires currently,i like them,there great all weather tires,very good traction in light snow,excellent grip in rain and of course dry conditions where they are most assertive.these tires are pretty quiet.mine are a treadware of 550 traction A temp A 195/65/r15. these tires are also 100% American made. 1 rate them a 7 out of 10 all around performance levels.
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Generally, the quality of the tire won't be as evident when the tires are new as, generally speaking, anybody can make a good tire when it's new. The quality of the tire will show up when the tire is 50% or more worn. And in my experience, Michelins are the best in remaining quiet, smooth, good wet weather handling, etc for the duration of the tire, not just the first 50%.
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