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Old 03-04-2002, 03:57 PM
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My .$.02

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From the info on this forum and the Wheels and Tire forum, I tried the Michelin MXV4s 195 / 70 R 14s. My tires were pretty worn, but these things make a HUGE difference.

The ride is smoother, quieter, there seems to be more control, like there is more grip on the road. I am very satisfied. They are not cheap, but if I can reiterate what I read somewhere else on this forum; concider how many miles you get from the tire, then think about it in terms of cost per mile. I think they were worth the price.

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Old 03-04-2002, 04:37 PM
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I'm using Yoko Avids - very nice.
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Old 03-04-2002, 10:43 PM
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I say Yoko Avid H4's

a excellent tire that isn't a wallet buster, I was able to get all 4 done on mine for around $400 (including labor and all that extra crap they charge).

They preform very nicely in the rain. They seem to hold their Air pressure pretty well (I check it every once and a while, I have yet to refill them) Plus they also have a nice looking tread.
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Old 03-07-2002, 09:11 PM
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I like Nokia tires there imported By cooper. Give them a look
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Old 03-07-2002, 09:27 PM
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I have 3 realitively heavy W124s, and have racked up about 200k on them, combined. FWIW Michelin gets the nod.

I've run ContiTurings, Toyo Proxes H4, FZ4, and T1; Michelin XGTZ4s (THE rain tire, when fresh anyway) & MXX3s, Pirelli 6000s, Avid H4s, and on all different horsepower cars from 121 to 326+ HP.

Michelin gets the nod-just be patient and shop for a deal.
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Old 03-08-2002, 07:47 AM
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Bridgestone Turanza Revo. Smooth ride no noise, great tire.

Luke thanks for recomending them!

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Old 03-09-2002, 05:24 AM
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Michelin MXV are mushy compared to their Pilot series!
Michelin Pilots are quieter than Bridgestones.

Yoko Avid and Bridgstone Turanzo Revo get the nod.
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Old 03-12-2002, 05:52 PM
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The W123 300D/280E series originally came with 185/70R14's, I believe, back in 1976. Later, the factory advised an increase
to an "H" rated 195/70R14 appearing on six inch wide alloy or
steel wheels. Still later on, a TSB was out that called for the
attention of load ratings when doing tire replacements. And
the latter was due to DOT and Federal Safety promulgations.
To date, the W123 series must meet a minimum load standard
of 1,300lbs per wheel per position which carries a designation of
not less than 90. Certainly anything above the number 90 would
be "Okay."

If the factory had wanted tires any greater than 195/70R14's
on the vehicles then a safe presumption can be made that
another TSB would have been issued by MB.

As a matter of interest, none of these comments apply to the
W123 240D Diesel, specifically in size descriptions. Typically
those stats are smaller.

There are many tire fitments that would "could" work with the
300D. Probably the all-time greatest tire to be placed in service
on the W123 was the now discontinued Michelin XH4. That XH4
has been replaced in the line-up with the X-One. The X-One
is a good tire as well but not as well made as the old XH4. The
only discrepancy with these particular Michelin tires were the
speed ratings of an "S" when the book called for an "H." Again,
the factory had a reason to state the correct size, speed and load
ratings. Tires are a safety issue.

Vredestein makes an excellent currently available line of tyres
which come very close to the engineering geometry contemplated
in the W123's original thinkings.
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Old 03-13-2002, 07:29 AM
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I drove my first 123 almost 300,000 miles and my second 533,000 miles plus my wife had another 240D and a 300D for a total of about 120,000 miles. I tried many different things as far as tires go including brands and sizes.

What I learned for economical, smooth running tires was two basic things; run Michelin 195/75R14's and MAKE SURE that they balance them with weights on BOTH the inside and outside of the wheel using a computer balancer.

If you do these two things, your tires will last a long, long time and will run silk smooth at any speed your diesel is capable of achieving.

Have a great day,
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Old 03-13-2002, 09:42 AM
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tirerack has some type of summitomo h rated tire available in the $35 range for the sizes discussed here. i am willing to bet this tire will be more than satisfactory for the demands placed on it by the w123 diesel.
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Old 03-13-2002, 11:05 AM
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It sounds like you have already selected Michelin, which I am going to endorse. I would also not increase the size from the factory recommendation, which I thought for the W123 300D was 195/70-HR-14. I have used this size on my 240D in the Michelin MXV4 flavor for over a hundred thousand miles (three sets of tires). I am not able to verify the size at the moment as I am in Colorado, not Connecticut but your car notes the factory recommendations in the manual and on some stickers on the glove box door inside surface and under the gas filler flap, I believe.

The fact that you have a wear problem should be addressed first though, or you will ruin your new tires. These cars get a 4 wheel alignment, and wear on the inner surface of the rear tires could be an indication the rear of the car is sagging. That can be a result of failing shocks, or even tired springs. It can also be a misalignment of the rear wheels. At the front end it can indicate a number of worn steering parts (usually accompanied by play in the steering) or an alignment problem. You did not specify which tires were having the problem.

Good luck and enjoy the new tires! Jim

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