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Old 12-18-2013, 11:25 AM
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Have a question on wheels

My Dear Reta's car is a 2003 Jag X type 2.5. It is a pretty car in a great shade of Blue. I also like it because it is a four door, but does take up so little space in the garage. But the ride is not good and I blame the wheels/tires. It has the 17" wheels with the small side wall tires. It has a great set of Michelins on it, 2 years old but very low miles, about 8000. Anyway, my buddy Bill has a 2001 Taurus which sustained a lot of damage when a tree fell on it. It has 15" factory alloy wheels with a set of Michelins with about the same mileage, tho only a year old. I would love to put that set of wheels/tires on the Jaguar. In checking wheel specs, I see that the wheels are identical except that the hub hole is 63.5mm on the Ford and 63.4mm on the Jaguar. So the hub hole is 1/10 mm bigger on the Ford which I think is in the neighbor hood of .003 to .004 of an inch. So would it be a great mistake to install the Ford wheel on my Ford built Jag. I would guess that it would be difficult to spread that difference equally. I would keep the current wheels and tires that are on the Jag, so that for extensive highway trip I could and would install them and use the Ford wheels and tires for local driving. What do you think?

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Old 12-18-2013, 01:16 PM
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0.1mm on that dimension is pretty small. The bolt hole PCD and bolt hole positions are much more important - then of course the length of the bolts (make sure they are long enough and that they don't snag on the inner side)

The Jag as you know is a Ford built machine; you might find that the wheels fit - though I'd be happier swapping over a European Ford model wheel

The difference in ride feel will be very noticeable if this works
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I just swapped to an AMG knock off on my coupe. The hub hole was larger on the replica but once bolted on and torqued, it centered perfectly. There are hub centric spacers out there.
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theres hub centric and lug centric

Are you working on a hub centric/ lug centric mismatch???
Also, ones RWD vs.FtWD

Then theres the offset. I mean when one wheel from each car is laid flat,
and you drop a tape down the center hole, is the back of the wheel bolt circle the same distance up from the floor?
Hub centric design saves weight and uses lighter material for wheels
by bearing the cars weight on the stronger, wider, thicker area at center.
This centers the assy. to run true. It can bear the weight get hotter and go faster without losing integrity.

Lug centric vehicles rely soley on the taper of the 5 conical lugnut seats. comuter car...
As I recall, tauruses are both. Because a 6 cyl. and an autom. + everything but the kitchen sink makes them nose heavy;
the wheels use both areas to center up and tighten down,bearing the weight.

Once the offset issue was solved, I would try it. but you dont want a larger hole going on a hub centric design.
Of course the tire guys by the ford dealer would have the books and experience to answer that way.

I've honed wheel centers before, also rotors, we checked and double checked and I learned if it was a stronger build for doing so, it was worth doing. Dont go weaker for either vehicle. That is, unless its ok for that axle, and how it can be loaded.

While you are redesigning, reduce the tire pressure on your
jag as much on the offending axle as they say is safe for that tire. road test and evaluate

Then adjust the remaining axle to their recommendation.
I almost always find them overinflated to the tires max. at full load ,
high speed, and high ambient. as stated on the sidewall. We tend to think too high is more right.
After adjusting pressure you may even like the ones you've got!!!

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