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Old 05-11-2006, 05:14 PM
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If you want to convert go to a WVO forum

I'm not against running a car on WVO properly, but if you want to do it, why not go to a WVO forum to find out how to do it correclty? You'll find the die-hards there as well as all arguments and info on the facts.

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Old 05-11-2006, 05:45 PM
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I agree that for some people with a properly installed heated system and who live in a warmer climate the benefits can be pretty big, but for people with short drives to work and who are in cold climates, (like me, and I drive 3.3 miles to work one way) WVO doesn't really work very well. It would be useful for me when I drive to the middle of the state a few times a week, but I have no good source of oil around here, and don't really have time to go collecting it or filter it. I barely have enough time to do normal work on the car as it is.
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Old 05-11-2006, 06:48 PM
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Give it a few hundred miles and I bet they would need a new IP after the glycerin wears it out.
There is no free glycerin in WVO/SVO. The esterification of veggie oil into biodiesel is a reaction that leaves you with the biodiesel and glycerin. It isn't just "separating" them.
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Old 05-11-2006, 07:13 PM
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"i want mine for driving on DIESEL, LIKE IT WAS MEANT TOO" & "I agree, I run mine on diesel"

I think that's your choice on what fuel to burn .

"and is what the MB engineers designed it for" actually it was designed by Rudolf Diesel to run on peanut oil .

"Acceleration is lost by about 15% from a standstill, and highway passing power is probably 20% less"

I know that vo has less btus than petro diesel, but myself I haven't seen any difference in power. Heck my 190D 2.5turbo manual start powersliding even in 2nd gear if floored.

"I burn almost 80 gallons of diesel a month usually, and am perfectly glad to run it on diesel."

Well you can afford it, and good for you. There are pople who can't. Let alone the amount of CO2 you'd be saving the planet from if you just burned 40gallons of vo/wvo out of the 80gallons. I'm not a greenie myself, but if I can get to birds with one shot why not?

"then they try it, ruin it, and send it to the scrap-yard, with 0 appreication for the car itself and thereby taking tons of these cars out of existence and making it harder for the people that appreciate them to find any nice examples anymore."

their money, they decide what to do with it. It's like I'd come out and ***** about you using 80gallons a month, thus leaving less for me . The more cars go to the scrap yard, the more value your car gains, and more parts to pull from the junk yard .
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Old 05-11-2006, 07:45 PM
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most of us

most of us here are here because of the bio diesel... and i am sorry you guys are in the minority... I have been here for a while and i have driven off of diesel until last week... and I am telling you my old car which i have had for years runs better off of veg oil... yes it does... there is more energy in the oil.. It no longer clanks and rattles.. it now sounds powerful....

and I am just pouring it into my tank... cold. ...
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Wow...3 pages of comments and nobody says...

...anything about Kari Byron?? And not a single joke about her "exploding pants" experiment? I am soooo disppointed.

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Old 05-11-2006, 07:57 PM
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too late. i noticed in the last year probly 100 new members that were only interestd in wvo and biodiesel. it gets annoying when thats all people want these cars for

It was a good show, remember it was was writen for the average moron.

I agree completly kmaysob, I hate seeing perfectly good MB's trashed because of botched WVO experiments.

I wanted a diesel Mercedes when I was 15 and fuel was still cheap. I want a Mercedes and I want it to be diesel, I couldn't care less about WVO and such. If fuel was $1.50 a gallon agian, I'd still be driving my diesel MB, and all the WVO cars would be rotting in a field.
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Old 05-11-2006, 08:19 PM
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...anything about Kari Byron?? And not a single joke about her "exploding pants" experiment? I am soooo disppointed.

She's why I watch the Mythbusters
hell yea me too. shes so hott!!
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Old 05-11-2006, 08:22 PM
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fight the power

fight the power man,
you guys are the establishment...

there millions of us out here and we are running on vegie oil...

straight....
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Old 05-11-2006, 08:24 PM
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Rudolf diesel did not design our engine, he designed his....the engines in our cars came many years later, and were designed to run petrol diesel fuel.

As for using a lot of diesel, I can't really afford it, but I have no choice, as there's no WVO around here and for my purposes I'd need the full heated tank system anyways, which would cost $$$$ that I don't have. Too many obstacles to use it. As for biodiesel, I did run it, but it is only 3-5 cents less a gallon around here for B20 (the highest blend available at a pump) B100 is only available by delivery in orders of 180 gallons or more, price? $3.50 a gallon

The one station that has the B20 (and delivers B100) is 12 miles from my house, utterly not worth it, it'd cost $3 just to go fill it up.

If diesel goes above about $3.30ish a gallon I'll switch to Sams Soy oil blend again. I have a rewards card for my gas station that takes about 12 cents a gallon off, so right now the 2.99 only costs me about 2.87 or so.....

I support the wvo idea, I just can't really take part in it.
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Old 05-11-2006, 08:26 PM
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most of us here are here because of the bio diesel... and i am sorry you guys are in the minority... I have been here for a while and i have driven off of diesel until last week... and I am telling you my old car which i have had for years runs better off of veg oil... yes it does... there is more energy in the oil.. It no longer clanks and rattles.. it now sounds powerful....

and I am just pouring it into my tank... cold. ...
well cosidering i have been here since 03 when i first got on here there was little talk about bio and almost none about wvo. yes they do sound quieter off veggie but it clogs piston ring groves, its not that great for the ip and injectors. i feel sorry if you change the oil in your car every 20k miles maybe you dont have the money or are just plain lazy/cheap. i could understand every 5-6 and thats stretchin it, but 20? thats just STUPID!! i hope to god you filter that oil very well before you trash it. you sir do not deserve to drive a mercedes diesel.
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Old 05-11-2006, 08:41 PM
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well sir

well sir,
scientist have proven that it is unecessary to change you oil... its just
marketing and a hazzard to the environment....they actually say its impossible to wear out todays oils....10 years from now when society wakes up they will just be changing the filters....

My diesel 1983 300sd runs 10x better on veggie oil then diesel... more energy. the valves are less noise and it does not smoke...
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Old 05-11-2006, 09:00 PM
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Get a Blackstone labs analysis on that oil you ran for 20k, the wear metals will be so high they will want to come to your house and do the oil change themselves, just to spare the engine from excess suffering.

I ran oil 3,500 miles before, and it had real high soot and slightly elevated iron particle count, I don't even want to know what 20k does. Has nothing to do with the oil wearing out, it has to do with the additives going away, and the particles/filth in the oil reaching a critical point where filtration no longer proves effective. I now change my oil between 2,700 and 2,900 miles depending on how much freeway driving was done.
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Old 05-11-2006, 09:53 PM
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i could understand every 5-6 and thats stretchin it, but 20? thats just STUPID!! ...you sir do not deserve to drive a mercedes diesel.
I completely agree. If you want to change the oil every 20K miles, get a beater honda or an old chevy/ford/dodge. Heck, I get all jittery if I go much past the 3000 mile mark.

When I got into the whole MB thing, I didn't care about Biodiesel/WVO. I know it's not a viable alternative fuel for the masses. I fell in love with the engine and car, not the ability to convert to WVO.

I'll stick with Diesel for my Diesel engine. The only reason I use B20 is a local station selling it for the same price as Dino-D.
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Old 05-11-2006, 09:59 PM
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If I had a station close to me selling B20 for the same or lesser cost I'd buy it too, its just that its at the opposite side of the city, and I get rebates when I buy regular diesel.....so its still holding steady as my cheapest fuel source.

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